RE: ADMIN: Don't start down this road

Subject: RE: ADMIN: Don't start down this road
From: Tom Murrell <trmurrell -at- yahoo -dot- com>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- raycomm -dot- com>
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:09:44 -0800 (PST)

--- Michael Bryans <Michael -dot- Bryans -at- hummingbird -dot- com> wrote:
> Tom,
> Perhaps, I'm a dreaded list lurker. Hide the women and children!

If so, may I commend your past discretion?

> Perhaps, I'm not so thick as to forget that many lists, info sources, and
> public/private collections have archives. Thank you anyway for condescending

It's lonely on Olympus. All the other gods are out playing.

> to point me to this resource. So, does one not merit the benefit of the
> doubt if one has not posted often (or at all), or (gawd forbid) has not been
> a subscriber since the last ice age? For what it's worth, I've been to the
> archives many times -- on this matter -- and others. Believe it or not.

Forgive me for assuming that you were an open-minded seeker after knowledge and
truth. I merely assumed that you might not be familiar with the resources of
TECHWR-L or that last year (if I'm not mistaken) we had a lengthy discussion of jobs
being exported out of the US. It was a discussion in which several posters forgot
that this was an international list and that not everyone was of the opinion that
citizens of the US were entitled to the right of first refusal on all Technical
Writing jobs. I thought perhaps you would want to acquire some context before you
continued the discussion.

Forgive me for misunderstanding your intent. (Even gods get it wrong from time to

> I do not accept the validity of the ADMIN characterization. I do not think

Thank you for sharing that with us. We're a little slow today, and we certainly
needed to know where you stand on this important matter. (Personally, I find it
fascinating how my email program sometimes breaks lines of text.)

> it prudent to cast aspersions to a named country in a global forum either,
> and I do not think it prudent to suggest someone is racist/xenophobic. Just
> end the thread. Period. What if the ADMIN (or your) characterization is
> wrong? Or based on circumstantial online evidence.

I am unrepentantly old school. I have been around a long time and whether that makes
my opinions more valuable than someone else's I will not say. But I have had the
chance to know racism and xenophobia up close and personal. I believe firmly that
they should be confronted when they appear and not allowed to gain a foothold.

In my opinion, Eric was NOT wrong in his characterization, and I will happily stand
with him if he is so accused in any competent jurisdiction. The only people I know
who make racist remarks are racists. The only people who defend racist remarks are
..., well I'll let you fill in that blank.

> Anyway, how are you defending the position of AP? For the umpteenth time
> (I'm counting the offline rebuttals) -> I agree, Eric has the right to limit
> and end the thread. I don't believe he has the right to declare certain
> characterizations of individuals online.

Eric has as much right to speak his truth as you do.

> I will not bother to make assumptions about you, or direct your attention to
> anything. After all, as you are one of "us who have been on the list for
> awhile". I respect your tenure.

Heaven forbid you would try to teach me anything. I see classes in both irony and
sarcasm in your future, for they are certainly not in your past.

> Now ... for those who will inevitably complain this post is not about
> technical writing ... I tried to craft the original post as clearly and
> evenly as possible -- in the interests of communications. Perhaps, I failed.
> There. Please forgive if I have erred herein. I am a lurker, after all.

So, now you plead ignorance and lack of skill? How convenient.

Tom Murrell
mailto:trmurrell -at- yahoo -dot- com Last Updated 10/28/02
--First keep the peace within yourself, then you can also bring peace to others.
Thomas a Kempis (1380 - 1471), 1420--

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