Re: Gender neutral - any new developments in your neck of the-- woods?

Subject: Re: Gender neutral - any new developments in your neck of the-- woods?
From: Valerie Priester <hammerl -at- buffalo -dot- edu>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- raycomm -dot- com>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:32:27 -0500


I also use second person singular whenever possible when writing my documents, which are directed toward the reader.
Of course, I also think your mother-in-law was technically correct, in the old-fashioned Emily Post school of things about the name deal ( Ms. Post said, "And a widow no less than a married woman should always continue to use her husband's Christian name, or his name and another initial, engraved on her cards. She is Mrs. John Hunter Titherington Smith, or, to compromise, Mrs. J. H. Titherington Smith, but she is never Mrs. Sarah Smith; at least not anywhere in good society. In business and in legal matters a woman is necessarily addressed by her own Christian name, because she uses it in her signature. But no one should ever address an envelope, except from a bank or a lawyer's office, Mrs. Sarah Smith."), but then again Emily Post has been dead for over forty years, and no one I know
leaves calling cards anymore, so I think this bit of advice, too, has gone the way of the horse and buggy. And no one was a Ms. back then.

I've never had occasion to address my audience or my personas by their
titles, so it hasn't come up in the workplace. ;-)

Oh, and Emily would have said it was just grand for Megan's friend to continue to be Mrs. Smith ("A woman who has divorced her husband retains the legal as well as the social right to use her husband's full name, in New York State at least. Usually she prefers, if her name was Alice Green, to call herself Mrs. Green Smith; not Mrs. Alice Smith, and on no
account Mrs. Alice Green unless she wishes to give the impression that she was the guilty one in the divorce."). So not only could she still be Mrs. Smith, she could still be Mrs. David Smith if she so chose. Hmmm. That could get ugly, and confusing.

http://www.bartleby.com/95/10.html

--On Monday, March 03, 2003 3:33 PM -0500 Kirsten Zerbinis=20
<salmonzerbinis -at- rogers -dot- com> wrote:

Yipes -- this reminds me of the arm-wrestling I did with my mother-in-law
over addressing wedding invitations. She insisted that the correct thing
to do was to only use Mrs. when you were also using the husband's name --
the whole name. As in, you could be Mrs. John Smith, *and* Ms. Jane Doe,
but never Mrs. Jane Smith. And, she being from New England, she was able
to put a disarming amount of conviction (and a prim, tight smile) behind
her use of the word "correct".

She didn't win that battle, but I still feel weird about the concession
that her 80-year-old, spinster aunt be referred to as Ms. Spinster Aunt.
New England, remember, and 80. I can't imagine she expected any form of
address except for "Miss".

Myself, I solve the gender-neutral problem with a steadfast use of the
second-person. It forces the active voice, it allows for a comfortable
but not breezy informality, and I never have to spend another moment
thinking "Well, the OED says using 'they' as a singular neuter pronoun is
okay, but I hate it and it's stupid. And only editors, tech writers, and
English professors pay attention to the OED anyway. What to do?"

On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Rock, Megan wrote:
Not to drag this even further off-topic, but what is the correct usage
of Ms.? A friend of mine who is divorced but still goes by her
married surname told me that she is supposed to use "Ms. Smith"
because her ex-husband remarried and his new wife is now the "Mrs.
Smith."



Valerie Priester
hammerl -at- buffalo -dot- edu

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