Re: BIZ: Time to Ask for Money?

Subject: Re: BIZ: Time to Ask for Money?
From: Michele Davis <michele -at- krautgrrl -dot- com>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:24:35 -0600


Bonnie,

When I take on a new project, whether from an old client or a new one, I tell them my hourly billable rate in our initial conversation. That usually weeds out people that want something for nothing, or next to nothing. I'm not going to say you were wrong, but my advice is to try and be more forthright with your rates. For example, "I'm willing to look at your manuscript, but my billable time is $XX/hour, would you still like me to take a look and offer some suggestions?"

I need a Visio diagram! Ah, too much Sarbanes-Oxley!

A YES gets "Then send me your manuscript, I'll look it over briefly and let you know what I think." If this then goes into another YES (for I'll do the project), I call or email and state that I am willing to take on the project and give a time estimate. Then I tell the lead that I will email them a contract for their perusal.

A NO in qualifying gets, "OK, well I wish you luck, if you change your mind, or you'd like a project bid, I could look over the manuscript for 15 minutes and give you some feedback that would help you make a determination on whether we can work together or not."

Once I was editing novels for a prolific writer at a very low rate, mostly because I loved her books. But it started to turn into an albatross because I had to manually hard copy edit even though she wrote in Word. And she never numbered her pages! She kept on telling me that it was God's hand in the fact that we were working together. I finally raised my rates because I became frustrated and she decided not to use me any longer. So be it.

So, to answer your question, I'd tell him your rate, how much comp time you've put into it and then tell him that if he wants to proceed that you will bring a contract when you meet for lunch. When you give him a time estimate, add in the hours that you don't want to comp out and you'll be fine. If he doesn't want to move forward, I think it may be too late to ask to be paid for four hours of your time.

HTH, Michele

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Bonnie Granat wrote:

I didn't want to end my remarks by saying that if he wanted to proceed we
could draw up an agreement for the terms of work, and I didn't even mention my rates.
My question, even though I think I know the answer, is this: Is it time to
ask for money? And if it is (I have given about 7 hours of free consultation
already), can you suggest a way to do so that will not scare him away? I
really do not want to work any more on this project without being paid, and
I want to gracefully, if possible, set up some kind of fee structure for my
continued "consultation."

I considered time of about three hours to be within my own personal
"marketing" time budget, but I am now feeling that I have so far surpassed
that allotment that I can no longer just meet with him for free.




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