RE: The Truth or Dare Poll (for the record, now that everyone has had their fun...)

Subject: RE: The Truth or Dare Poll (for the record, now that everyone has had their fun...)
From: "Nuckols, Kenneth M" <Kenneth -dot- Nuckols -at- mybrighthouse -dot- com>
To: "Joe Malin" <jmalin -at- tuvox -dot- com>, "Stuart Burnfield" <sburnf -at- au1 -dot- ibm -dot- com>, <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:56:50 -0500

There is an early Van Morrison (I believe) song that includes the line
"light up a fag..." and while it sounded a bit strange to me the first
time I heard it, I soon realized in the context of the rest of the
lyrics that the singer was talking about a cigarette and was not
encouraging hate crimes.

If memory serves, I believe I read once that in the 18th and 19th
centuries the term "faggot" referred to bundles of small twigs that were
used as kindling to help get fires started. The association in music of
the term with reed instruments is therefore quite understandable, but
how it ever got bastardized to its current connotation is something I've
never been able to deduce.

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> Joe Malin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:34 PM
> To: Stuart Burnfield; techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> Subject: RE: The Truth or Dare Poll (for the record,now that everyone
has
> had their fun...)
>
> Dear Stuart,
>
> Unfortunately, among the Yanks I am probably the only person who
> understands what an 8-ball over *is*.
>
> I used a slide rule well into college, and I had a Spirograph. I also
> had a wooden tennis racket with a press, and had candy cigarettes. For
> whatever reason, they were never called "fags" in the US, though again
I
> understand the etymology of the term. It has nothing to do with
> homosexuality, but here's a hint: in music notation, the bassoon
section
> is called "fagoti".
>
> Joe Malin
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+jmalin=tuvox -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com] On
Behalf
> Of Stuart Burnfield
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 4:50 PM
> To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> Subject: Re: The Truth or Dare Poll (for the record, now that everyone
> has had their fun...)
>
> Amy said:
> > Milk in glass bottles, with foil caps, home delivered, in the
special
> milk box annex of the mailbox
>
> > We used to get gigantic rolls of foil with punched-out circles from
> > the
> milk packing plant and use it like tinsel to decorate for school
> dances...
>
> We used these to decorate the Christmas tree too.
>
> > Candy cigarettes
>
> In Australia these were called Fags, 'fag' being slang for a
cigarette.
> You can still buy them but I see they're now called Fads...
>
> I remember white tennis balls (actually a sort of yellowish grey
> colour).
> When the green balls first came in you could also get red ones that
were
> supposedly easier to see in the evening. And we played on grass
courts.
> And the racquets were made of wood and you stored them in a press so
> they would hold their shape.
>
> I remember eight-ball overs, and calling out "O.C." before bowling the
> last ball.
>
> My oldest brother used a slide rule at high school. The four-function
> pocket calculators were just coming out by the time he finished. He
also
> had a Spirograph set. How cool was that?
>
> Stuart
>
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