RE: Writing test Fridays

Subject: RE: Writing test Fridays
From: "Brierley, Sean" <Sean -dot- Brierley -at- ipc -dot- com>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:10:59 -0500


But I thought I said, "So being aware there might be a problem ending a
sentence with a preposition is a good thing." I didn't think I said it
was correct or incorrect, just that awareness that an issue exists is a
good and positive thing.

However, to address Mr. Churchill's quote, "That is the type of arrant
pedantry up with which I shall not put," didn't PM Churchill get it
wrong? Isn't "put up with" a phrasal verb, and isn't the phrase "up
with" and adverbial participle and actually not a preposition?

For discussion, anyway.


Who also teaches at a 4-year uni.


From: Pro TechWriter [mailto:pro -dot- techwriter -at- gmail -dot- com]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:42 PM
To: Brierley, Sean
Subject: Re: Writing test Fridays

Well, like I said the first time, I beg to differ. Ending a sentence
with a preposition is not "wrong," although it is commonly believed that
it is.

Quoted directly from the Chicago Manual of Style Online:

5.169Ending a sentence with a preposition

The traditional caveat of yesteryear against ending sentences with
prepositions is, for most writers, an unnecessary and pedantic
restriction. As Winston Churchill famously said, "That is the type of
arrant pedantry up with which I shall not put. " A sentence that ends in
a preposition may sound more natural than a sentence carefully
constructed to avoid a final preposition. Compare Those are the
guidelines an author should adhere to with Those are the guidelines to
which an author should adhere. The "rule" prohibiting terminal
prepositions was an ill-founded superstition.

Happy President's Day!

(Past College Technical Writing Teacher, Editor, Teaching Assistant and
English 101 Tutor)

On 2/16/07, Brierley, Sean <Sean -dot- Brierley -at- ipc -dot- com> wrote:

Well, recasting the phrase wouldn't hurt, "We want to see your
best, so
as you work, keep in mind we are looking for the following

On principle, I wouldn't mind if more tech writers were a little
grounded in grammar. Seriously. So being aware there might be a
ending a sentence with a preposition is a good thing, the next
obviously, is to learn what to do next.



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