Re: Giving up on XML

Subject: Re: Giving up on XML
From: "Sean Hower" <hokumhome -at- freehomepage -dot- com>
To: <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:22:27 -0700

> Gene Kim-Eng asked of the samples I sent:
> What tool did you use to create these?
Notepad, Javascript, XSL, and IE/Netscape/Firefox. In short, I used Javascript written in the HTML page to perform a client-side transformation when the page is loaded. It's really more of an application than a document. Yep, I'm one of those people that likes getting down into the code.

> Stuart Burnfield wrote:
> I guess Gene is describing 'XML Publishing in a Box'. IBM and other big
> companies already have one of these boxes... What's needed is a box that can be lifted by one or two
> TWs with relative ease.
Again, depending on your needs, Apache Forrest fits this requirement.

> Bob Doyle wrote:
> I wish people would pay more attention to the phrase:"It was developed
> primarily for the purpose of holding the results of troff conversion of
> UNIX documentation, so that the files could be interchanged ". Not to
> work in, but to use to interchange content.
Very good point, and one that I often forget when I get into these discussions about DocBook.....I don't forget that point when I'm working with .config or other "data" files.

> Chris Borokowski wrote:
> HTML is for layout, and is a
> specialized form of SGML. XML is generalized. This is
> a key conceptual difference!
HTML is a predefined DTD. XML is not a predefined DTD, you must define your own. This sounds like a better distinction. I suppose, with that distinction, DocBook and HTML have more in common than XML and DocBook because, really, DocBook isn't XML, it's the DTD/schema that defines what an XML file should look like. And presentation isn't really handled by HTML, it's handled by the browser displaying a Web page.

> Gene Kim-Eng wrote:
> This is exactly the sort of discussion I never want
> to have to have or hear others in my department
> having to get a document done.
And with a properly configured toolchain/process, you should never have to. :-)

Sean Hower - communications specialist

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