Re: RE: What computer, what software for a lab? (take II)

Subject: Re: RE: What computer, what software for a lab? (take II)
From: quills -at- airmail -dot- net
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:32:14 -0500

Both Parallels and VMFusion allow running Windows as an "application" so that instead of two desktops (Mac and Windows) you only have
the Mac and the Windows apps appear as an app in the Mac OS. VMFusion allows you to run several different types of *nix, I'm not sure
that Parallels does.

The main caveat is that if you want read/write capabilites to the Windows partition you have to use FAT32. If you use NTFS format in
the partition you will have read only from the Mac side. On the Windows side, in order to read or write to the Mac partition or disks
you need a 3rd party application. However you can drag and drop between the two windows.

Scott

On Mon 08/05/19 09:30 , "Sam Beard" sent:
> All,
>
> What Geoff says is all true. However, one thing that he possibly
> forgot to mention is that VMWare Fusion will allow you to run pretty
> much ANY version of Windows from 3.1 all the way up to at least XP, if
> not Vista. Parallels Desktop only allows for XP, 2000(?), and Vista, I
> believe. Also, I heard that one of them (possibly Fusion?) will allow
> you to run a Windows program just like running another Mac app, meaning
> that you don't necessarily have to start up the virtualization
> software,only the app you want to run. I could be wrong on this, but I seem to
> recall reading/hearing something about it.
>
> In any case, as has been mentioned, if you can afford to do so,
> buying a Mac can certainly be a good idea, particularly if you
> want/needto operate Mac software along with *nix and/or Windows.
>
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> Subject: What computer, what software for a lab? (take II)
>
> Gene Kim-Eng provided a good summary, but his last point requires
> clarification:
> have the budget for it, get Macs and use Bootcamp to enable you to
> load Mac OS, Windows or Linux without emulators... Whatever you do,
> do NOT attempt to run processor-intensive applications like Maya,
> Max, Lightwave, etc., in Windows running on a Mac with an emulator.>>
>
> It's important to distinguish here between an "emulator", such as
> Microsoft's own Virtual PC, and "virtualization" software, such as
> Parallels or VMWare fusion: Gene is 100% correct that an emulator
> will drive you crazy because it's so slow. (Plus, I'm not aware of
> any Windows emulators that still run on the Intel chips; Virtual PC
> ceased development when the Intel chip Macs came out.)
>
> In contrast, virtualization software runs Windows at full speed, so
> all else being equal (i.e., plenty of memory* and a fast hard drive),
> you'll never notice you're using it. Indeed, some recent tests showed
> that a Mac running Windows under Parallels was faster than a
> comparably equipped PC running the same version of Windows; I believe
> it was Apple vs. Dell, so we're not talking about a cheapie clone
> either. (This seeming anomaly occurred because of how well the system
> components are integrated. In that particular test, the Mac was the
> better machine. A different PC, such as a top-end gaming machine from
> Alienware, might have beaten the Mac by a significant margin.)
>
> * OS X runs just fine in 1 Gig of RAM, as does Windows XP; Vista
> requires at least 2 Gig, and 4 is better. So add at least that much
> RAM (1 + 1 = 2 Gig for XP, 1 + 2 to 4 = 3 to 5 Gig for Vista) to each
> computer if you want to run OS X and Windows side by side. For
> Photoshop, even more is better.
>
> Bootcamp is neither emulator nor virtualization software: all it does
> is let you choose which OS (Mac vs. Windows) should be loaded each
> time you boot. If you never need to run OS X and Windows
> simultaneously, it's your best bet because it's free. If you want to
> run Mac software side by side with Windows software without having to
> reboot, you need either Parallels or Fusion. Which of the two is
> better? They keep leapfrogging each other, but Fusion is probably
> better if you also need to run Linux simultaneously. VMWare has many
> years more experience with virtualization than Parallels.
>
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