Re: What's MS Experience worth on your resume?

[Laura Praderio Lynn <lpraderio -at- alpineclimbs -dot- com>]

HP had a similar experience a few years ago whereby they let go of a 
group in the U.S. then rehired them back immediately as contractors. the 
former employees filed a lawsuit and won. the new rule at HP is that you 
can't hire someone back for one year as either a contractor or full-time 
employee.

voxwoman wrote:
> This has to do with the 9th Circuit Court ruling many years ago (2000? 2001?
> 1999? '98?). The contractors sued microsoft because they were denied stock
> options and watched the "real" employees doing the same work one desk over
> become millionaires while they just collected their paychecks. The Court
> ruling found that since the contractors were continuously employed for a
> long period of time (sometimes 10 or more years), they were de-facto
> employees and then granted a large settlement.
> 
> The 100 days of layoffs is the loophole to keep from hiring real employees.
> After the ruling, most US corporations started similar practices.
> 
> -Wendy
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin <
> Kevin -dot- McLauchlan -at- safenet-inc -dot- com> wrote:
> 
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>>> Just saw this posting over at the STC Forum:
>>>
>>> http://stcforum.org/viewtopic.php?id=1481
>>>
>>> and it got me wondering whether having experience working for MS in
>>> itself could make him a more attractive candidate, or what ways he
>>> could use it to his advantage in looking for other work to fill in
>>> those 100-day gaps.
>> Are there no workarounds that he could use?
>>
>> Does Microsoft (or any other big company) create projects that last only
>> 265 calendar days (or whatever lesser number of working-days that works
>> out to...)?  Or do they just have big projects into which they slot one
>> contractor after another?
>>
>> What would the US employment and taxation rules say about the guy having
>> a corporation that would hire him (who co-incidentally was the
>> major/only share-holder) for 100 days out of every year, and that
>> corporation would contract to provide writing services to Microsoft when
>> he wasn't working directly for Microsoft itself...?
>>
>> No, huh?
>>
>> Tax man discourages that sort of thing?
>>
>>
>> On a different-but-related note, how persuasive is recent, successful
>> Microsoft working experience, when one is applying to Microsoft after
>> 100 days away from them?  Does one tend to slide easily back into an
>> existing project when one's successor-contractor is ready to depart? Or
>> does one start over and fight for the job like anybody off the street?
>>
>>  - Kevin
>>  (in Canada, and a staffer, not a contractor, so I'm just curious how
>> the other half lives)
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