Re: Project time tracking application

Subject: Re: Project time tracking application
From: "Raj " <uneasysoul -at- rediffmail -dot- com>
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Date: 7 Jun 2010 11:30:41 -0000

Hi,

Please try a free web-based application called Gantter.

You can check it out at http://www.gantter.com/

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Today's Topics:



1. Re: FW: Updating page numbers pulling from a hidden field

(Ned Bedinger)

2. Calling help from a python command line (Heather Duggan)

3. Project time tracking application (Technical Writer)

4. RE: Project time tracking application (Martinek, Carla)

5. RE: Project time tracking application (Robart, Kay)

6. Re: Calling help from a python command line (Janet Swisher)

7. RE: Project time tracking application (Pinkham, Jim)

8. Re: Calling help from a python command line (M Giffin)

9. Re: Project time tracking application (David Castro)

10. Re: Project time tracking application (Tony Chung)

11. Re: Project time tracking application (quills -at- airmail -dot- net)





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Message: 1

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 01:18:17 -0700

From: Ned Bedinger

Subject: Re: FW: Updating page numbers pulling from a hidden field

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On 05/26/2010 11:16 AM, Borowik, Kristy wrote:

> I forgot to mention that I'm working in Word 2007.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Borowik, Kristy

> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:10 PM

> To: 'techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com'

> Subject: Updating page numbers pulling from a hidden field

>

> I'm working in a template with a hidden field under the chapter number.

> I removed Chapter 1 from the manual I'm working on and now need to

> change Chapter 2 to Chapter 1, etc. The file was also set up for

> the page numbers to include the chapter number. I can see that they

> re set up to pull from Heading 9. The chapter number text is not in

> Heading 9, so I think the numbering is pulling from this hidden

> field. When I right-click the hidden field, it has an option to renumber.

> I choose a new number, and it just seems to break. The chapter number

> in the page number complete disappears. So this must not be the right

> way.

>

> What should I try next?





Sorry, Word's not my t'ing, but as a general rule, if you change

something and it then seems broken, unchange it and see if it then seems

fixed. Think of it as a major methodology for those of us who prefer to

learn through hands-on investigation instead of reading the manual.



In your case, I'd go back to the original file with Ch 1 still in it.

Are you pulling the hidden field number in Heading 9? Right click it,

etc, go from there.



G'luck.











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Message: 2

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 08:13:10 -0700

From: Heather Duggan

Subject: Calling help from a python command line

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I seem to have a pent up store of questions. :)



I'm writing help files for commands which can either be accessed from an

application or from a python command line. We're using .chm files for the

application help, but we're somewhat stumped about providing help from the

python command line. Although it's possible to bring up the .chm file from

the command line, bringing up the *specific* help topic is quite difficult

(mainly because the search function is broken from the command line, so the

programmer would have to know an exact topic name or index entry to locate a

topic.)



Are we going about this the wrong way? We're not at all wed to using .chm

files. We just want the programmers to be able to get help on a command from

the python command line, and we want to maintain that command-line help in

the same way we maintain the rest of our help (i.e., from within a

single-sourcing authoring tool.)



Thanks,



Heather





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Message: 3

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:53:28 -0400

From: Technical Writer

Subject: Project time tracking application

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I work on multiple development projects that are billed separately. What software (or method) have you found works best for tracking how much time is spent on which project? Suggestions or experiences would be greaty appreciated.



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Message: 4

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:59:47 -0500

From: "Martinek, Carla"

Subject: RE: Project time tracking application

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Go to CNET's download.com and search for "project time tracker". There were a couple I used to use years ago when I was contracting that were able to easily track multiple projects.



-CM









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I work on multiple development projects that are billed separately. What software (or method) have you found works best for tracking how much time is spent on which project? Suggestions or experiences would be greaty appreciated.



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Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:23:31 -0500

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Subject: RE: Project time tracking application

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I am using a little app called Easy Time Tracking. It seems to be okay.

It's pretty simple.



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I work on multiple development projects that are billed separately. What

software (or method) have you found works best for tracking how much

time is spent on which project? Suggestions or experiences would be

greaty appreciated.



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Message: 6

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:32:18 -0500

From: Janet Swisher

Subject: Re: Calling help from a python command line

To: Heather Duggan

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Heather,



Python command-line users are accustomed to accessing help about

Python commands/functions/classes/etc. using the built-in help()

function, which displays information from the item's docstring from

the source code. I strongly recommend using this mechanism rather than

creating a new way of accessing help for Python objects.



Just like for Java and .NET, there are tools for extracting

documentation comments from Python source code and outputting it in a

more readable format. For example, Epydoc produces output very similar

to Javadoc: http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/



If you want to be able to create more traditional documentation that

integrates API reference information into a higher-level structure,

consider using Sphinx with the "autodoc" extension:

http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ It can generate HTML Help source files (which

you can compile to .chm), or generate HTML files that you can import

into your single-sourcing tool. But for this type of information, you

should consider the source code docstrings to be the ultimate "single

source", in order to support the built-in command-line help.



Regards,

Janet Swisher

--

Visit my blog at: http://www.janetswisher.com





On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Heather Duggan wrote:

> I seem to have a pent up store of questions. :)

>

> I'm writing help files for commands which can either be accessed from an

> application or from a python command line. We're using .chm files for the

> application help, but we're somewhat stumped about providing help from the

> python command line. Although it's possible to bring up the .chm file from

> the command line, bringing up the *specific* help topic is quite difficult

> (mainly because the search function is broken from the command line, so the

> programmer would have to know an exact topic name or index entry to locate a

> topic.)

>

> Are we going about this the wrong way? We're not at all wed to using .chm

> files. We just want the programmers to be able to get help on a command from

> the python command line, and we want to maintain that command-line help in

> the same way we maintain the rest of our help (i.e., from within a

> single-sourcing authoring tool.)

>

> Thanks,

>

> Heather

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Message: 7

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:32:45 -0500

From: "Pinkham, Jim"

Subject: RE: Project time tracking application

To: "Technical Writer" ,



Cc: "Martinek, Carla"

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Very interesting that you should mention this. I'd been looking for

something similar, and I scoured my own e-mail archives and the list

archives yesterday because I thought the discussion had come up in the

past year or so. I found a reference to Personal Time Manager (PTM

1.4.5, from SourceForge, IIRC). That's what I've been using for the past

couple of years. Light and minimalist and no real complaints. I did not

find the application that I seemed to recall had been more recently

used, tested, and lauded. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark it and

couldn't recall the exact name.



But I also checked to see what was new and perhaps more feature rich.

After checking out the reviews and sites such as Google, Wikipedia,

Snapfiles, Gizmo Richards "Best Free Software" series, and the like, I

ended up downloading Time Sheet

(http://www.timesheetsmts.com/freesoftware.htm), Toggl

(http://www.toggl.com/), and Grindstone 2

(http://www.epiforge.com/Grindstone2/) for potential testing. Of the

three, Grindstone seemed easiest, lightest, and most appealing to my

needs. I installed that this morning, and I'm very much liking what I

see so far. It looks like it will be easy for reporting -- and I could

easily tie to rates, even variable rates, if I were using during my off

hours to bill a freelance client. The application can be carted around

on a stick, too, and tasks ported back and forth between home and work.



I had to chuckle when I stepped away from my desk for 11 minutes and 22

seconds this morning and was greeted by a message when I hit the first

keystroke upon my return. The application promptly asked what I'd been

doing, if I wanted to assign the time to a task, or "Nothing that

concerns you, Grindstone."



HTH,

Jim



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I work on multiple development projects that are billed separately. What

software (or method) have you found works best for tracking how much

time is spent on which project? Suggestions or experiences would be

greaty appreciated.



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Message: 8

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:14:30 -0700

From: M Giffin

Subject: Re: Calling help from a python command line

To: Heather Duggan

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Heather,



Although there is probably a way to use Python to get the .chm to do

what you want, I agree with Janet that the command line help would do

better to return help on the command line. Most programmers I know

would probably prefer it that way rather than have a .chm file pop up

(I would). On one API project I use XML source files (that are

largely generated form source code) and output them to HTML, PDF and

plain text for command line help (using XSLT and XSL-FO). The API can

be used with several languages including Python, and when you enter a

command like "help ObjectName" on the command line it returns a page

related to that item. Like a Unix man page.



Mark Giffin



At 09:32 AM 5/27/2010, Janet Swisher wrote:

>Heather,

>

>Python command-line users are accustomed to accessing help about

>Python commands/functions/classes/etc. using the built-in help()

>function, which displays information from the item's docstring from

>the source code. I strongly recommend using this mechanism rather than

>creating a new way of accessing help for Python objects.

>

>Just like for Java and .NET, there are tools for extracting

>documentation comments from Python source code and outputting it in a

>more readable format. For example, Epydoc produces output very similar

>to Javadoc: http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/

>

>If you want to be able to create more traditional documentation that

>integrates API reference information into a higher-level structure,

>consider using Sphinx with the "autodoc" extension:

>http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ It can generate HTML Help source files (which

>you can compile to .chm), or generate HTML files that you can import

>into your single-sourcing tool. But for this type of information, you

>should consider the source code docstrings to be the ultimate "single

>source", in order to support the built-in command-line help.

>

>Regards,

>Janet Swisher

>--

>Visit my blog at: http://www.janetswisher.com

>

>

>On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Heather Duggan

> wrote:

> > I seem to have a pent up store of questions. :)

> >

> > I'm writing help files for commands which can either be accessed from an

> > application or from a python command line. We're using .chm files for the

> > application help, but we're somewhat stumped about providing help from the

> > python command line. Although it's possible to bring up the .chm file from

> > the command line, bringing up the *specific* help topic is quite difficult

> > (mainly because the search function is broken from the command line, so the

> > programmer would have to know an exact topic name or index entry

> to locate a

> > topic.)

> >

> > Are we going about this the wrong way? We're not at all wed to using .chm

> > files. We just want the programmers to be able to get help on a

> command from

> > the python command line, and we want to maintain that command-line help in

> > the same way we maintain the rest of our help (i.e., from within a

> > single-sourcing authoring tool.)

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Heather

> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^







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Message: 9

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:25:35 -0400

From: David Castro

Subject: Re: Project time tracking application

To: "Pinkham, Jim"

Cc: Technical Writer , "Martinek,Carla"

, techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com

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I use the service from Freshbooks.com that has a built-in timer. This is

great for on-the-side consulting. They have a free option for 3 clients.

I've been using them for a couple of years and really like the service.



I also use a program called Timesheet Helper. Unfortunately, the software

developer called it quits a couple of years ago, but gave me an unlocked

version and gave me permission to share it with others. If anyone would like

a copy of this app, please let me know.



On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:



> Very interesting that you should mention this. I'd been looking for

> something similar, and I scoured my own e-mail archives and the list

> archives yesterday because I thought the discussion had come up in the

> past year or so. I found a reference to Personal Time Manager (PTM

> 1.4.5, from SourceForge, IIRC). That's what I've been using for the past

> couple of years. Light and minimalist and no real complaints. I did not

> find the application that I seemed to recall had been more recently

> used, tested, and lauded. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark it and

> couldn't recall the exact name.

>

> -David Castro

thejavaguy -at- gmail -dot- com





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Message: 10

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:10:24 -0700

From: Tony Chung

Subject: Re: Project time tracking application

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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Technical Writer wrote:

>

> I work on multiple development projects that are billed separately.

> What software (or method) have you found works best for tracking how much time is spent on which project?



I use a single spreadsheet per client, and track projects using a

macro and lookup table. I cut and paste a custom =now() formula that

tracks in 15 minute slots into the start and end cells for each

project. It would be better to be fully automated, but this system has

been portable for the last several years.



-Tony





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Message: 11

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:36:59 -0500

From: quills -at- airmail -dot- net

Subject: Re: Project time tracking application

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I have used Time Slice and found it very useful. The have an app for the

iPhone/iPod Touch and it was easy to keep track of things.



http://www.timeslice.us/TimeSlice/Welcome.html



Scott



On 5/27/10 11:32 AM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> Very interesting that you should mention this. I'd been looking for

> something similar, and I scoured my own e-mail archives and the list

> archives yesterday because I thought the discussion had come up in the

> past year or so. I found a reference to Personal Time Manager (PTM

> 1.4.5, from SourceForge, IIRC). That's what I've been using for the past

> couple of years. Light and minimalist and no real complaints. I did not

> find the application that I seemed to recall had been more recently

> used, tested, and lauded. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark it and

> couldn't recall the exact name.

>

> But I also checked to see what was new and perhaps more feature rich.

> After checking out the reviews and sites such as Google, Wikipedia,

> Snapfiles, Gizmo Richards "Best Free Software" series, and the like, I

> ended up downloading Time Sheet

> (http://www.timesheetsmts.com/freesoftware.htm), Toggl

> (http://www.toggl.com/), and Grindstone 2

> (http://www.epiforge.com/Grindstone2/) for potential testing. Of the

> three, Grindstone seemed easiest, lightest, and most appealing to my

> needs. I installed that this morning, and I'm very much liking what I

> see so far. It looks like it will be easy for reporting -- and I could

> easily tie to rates, even variable rates, if I were using during my off

> hours to bill a freelance client. The application can be carted around

> on a stick, too, and tasks ported back and forth between home and work.

>

> I had to chuckle when I stepped away from my desk for 11 minutes and 22

> seconds this morning and was greeted by a message when I hit the first

> keystroke upon my return. The application promptly asked what I'd been

> doing, if I wanted to assign the time to a task, or "Nothing that

> concerns you, Grindstone."

>

> HTH,

> Jim

>

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> Behalf Of Technical Writer

> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:53 AM

> To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com

> Subject: Project time tracking application

>

>

> I work on multiple development projects that are billed separately. What

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> time is spent on which project? Suggestions or experiences would be

> greaty appreciated.

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> Thanks

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