Re: Sell-by date rant (was Re: Rates)

[Elaine Garnet <2egarnet -at- rogers -dot- com>]

Ability to do the work, yes, but all kinds of diversity including age,  
race and the disabled is a good thing, surely.

On 12-Nov-10, at 2:54 PM, Porrello, Leonard wrote:

> Really? "Hire for diversity"? I'd feel a lot more secure working for a
> company that hired for ability (regardless of age or race).
>
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> Smart company! Companies who hire for diversity should win awards.
>
> On 12-Nov-10, at 2:26 PM, voxwoman wrote:
>
>> I was paranoid about my gray when I was out looking for work 2.5
>> years ago.
>> I got hired from my first interview. But the company I'm working for
>> trends
>> older in general
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Katherine Noftz Nagel (Kat) <
>> lists -at- masterworkconsulting -dot- com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-10-27 8:56 AM, Elaine Garnet wrote:
>>>> I so agree with the sell-by date. Mine apparently expired many  
>>>> years
>>>> ago despite my technological aptitude. I am finding that companies
>>>> are
>>>> hiring candidates fresh out of university and training them for the
>>>> job. These young ones will work long hours for dirt cheap wages.  
>>>> How
>>>> can you compete with that if you have 10 years experience doing  
>>>> that
>>>> job successfully and are a mature candidate?
>>>
>>> I'm also discovering that gray hairs don't get the gold.
>>>
>>> When I started my professional life as a research chemist, and later
>>> started freelancing as a technical writer, gender was the issue. I
>>> had
>>> to deal with managers and prospective clients who didn't believe a
>>> woman
>>> could function successfully in a technical career. I managed, of
>>> course
>>> <grin>. And had quite a lot of fun in the process.
>>>
>>> Now, it's that gray hair. It takes a gawdawful amount of effort to
>>> convince a 30-something engineer/MBA that 17 years as a research
>>> scientist and 20+ years documenting new medical devices, laboratory
>>> SOPs, computer networks, industrial safety systems, payroll and
>>> benefits
>>> management software, and automated fork-lift trucks qualifies me to
>>> write highly technical material such as a lab-management system user
>>> manual.
>>>
>>> Oh, I usually get the projects, especially if the engineer/MBAs
>>> mother
>>> was a techie. But the process is exhausting. I'm considering
>>> starting a
>>> professional association for people like me. Gonna call it NAGG.
>>>
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