RE: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out)

Subject: RE: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out)
From: <lists -at- edmarsh -dot- com>
To: "Tim J. Slager" <TSlager -at- isdcorporation -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:28 -0400

As someone active in the Drupal community, I'd hold off on 7 for a bit if you're using a lot of contributed modules. Things like the Views and Panels modules are still problematic in 7.

Regardless, the Drupal community is fantastic, friendly, and extraordinarily helpful. I'd highly recommend going to a meetup.
-=Ed.

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:57:34 -0400, "Tim J. Slager" <TSlager -at- isdcorporation -dot- com> wrote:

Any chance you could upgrade from Drupal 6 to Drupal 7? It is
considerably more intuitive (although still massively robust and
complex). If there is a local drupal group in your area, they may be
eager to help you get things sorted out. The group in my area (Grand
Rapids, MI, US) is. If you want to experiment with Drupal 7, start a
(free) site on Drupal Gardens (http://www.drupalgardens.com/). You may
decide the upgrade is not worth the effort, but it might be worth
checking.

tims

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Subject: Re: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out)

On 4/19/2011 4:49 AM, INKtopia Admin wrote:
[From Al]

Morning folks -

I'll do my best to send out updates via the list but right now the arc
of my progress can be summarized as: know problem --> frustrated b/c
the first 10 solutions don't work the way I wanted --> find solution
or something I can accept as better than where I started.

Many people on this list use the list as a collaboration and support
tool for dealing with these sorts of issues. It is educational and
fun for participants and often helpful for the person who is looking
for a solution. So share away...

But for those playing along at home, I can give a little structural
background on the site and email discussion groups:

Most of the website is powered by the CMS solution Drupal 6.x. Drupal
is a very robust open source platform but is pretty complex. I'm an
avid Wordpress fan because it's fairly user friendly. Drupal isn't.
However, there's a ton of good training out there for novices like
myself. Lynda.com has some good stuff.

I *love* Drupal. I use Drupal with Zen as my main theme and I build
custom themes for my sites that go on top of Zen. I'm still learning
how to use this. I have several sites served from one Drupal
installation, but I began with several installations and I recently
migrated them all into one. Unfortunately, I have shared hosting, so
my php limit is set at 32M, which means my sites have memory limit
errors.
I need to get that fixed.

However, the archives for the email discussion groups aren't really
part of Drupal thus the formatting problem I had late last week when I
changed the navigation UI for the site. The archives are created via
some dark art process I haven't quite figured out. As of yesterday, I
know that Mailman runs this list serve and a small script comes into
our mail server (postfix) and grabs all the recent content. Then, on
the backs of fairies this content is archived into folders by date and
time. It then generates a summary Index page which is level 2 in the
archives if the entry page /archives is level 1.

That doesn't sound fun. I would probably try to keep the archives
separate for now and look at various tools to integrate old technology
into Drupal. There are so many tools available that there should be
something for this.

As of now, we just have deep links into the archive and a header that
sort of looks the same. Our long term solution is to start archiving
everything within Drupal, but I'm certain that the process won't be
pleasant.

I think it is best to keep the archives in their own database and
find a way to call to that from Drupal.

Also, make sure that you keep your Drupal system modules and themes
separate from your site-specific modules and themes, otherwise you can
wreak havoc when you upgrade and when you have two modules or themes
with the same name. Plus, add-ons can break your system.

Frankly, right now, I'd be pleased to find a solution that integrates
the Drupal search with the archives search. There's a couple good
possibilities out there but until I look into the difficulty of
bringing all the content in house; the two searches will need to be
separate. I'd rather not burn time with an interim solution if the
long term fix has a comparable time and difficulty rating.

I would keep the legacy stuff separate, since Drupal does not need to
change anything to read a database and importing that data into your
Drupal database could lead to trouble in the future.

Thanks for being part of Techwr-l and for your interest in our
progress. It's greatly appreciated.

I am totally interested in your progress with this and I want to
learn how you are using Drupal.

Lauren


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Follow-Ups:

References:
Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out): From: Stuart Burnfield
Re: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out): From: INKtopia Admin
Re: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out): From: Lauren
Re: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out): From: Phil
Re: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out): From: INKtopia Admin
Re: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out): From: Lauren
RE: Searching Techwr-l archives (Was: Advice on starting out): From: Tim J. Slager

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