RE: Yay or Nay

Subject: RE: Yay or Nay
From: "Cardimon, Craig" <ccardimon -at- M-S-G -dot- com>
To: 'John Allred' <jack -at- allrednet -dot- com>, 'Dan Goldstein' <DGoldstein -at- riveraintech -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:10:33 +0000

When I was in school (1970s), both the answer and the process were critical. One didn't matter without the other.

But, some teachers were too tired and stressed to probe too deeply about how you got your answer.

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Sent: mercredi 1 février 2012 09:08
To: Dan Goldstein
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Subject: Re: Yay or Nay

At the risk of showing my age, what this Newthink action highlights is the loss of vision for what our educational system should provide: improving our ability to think.

Recalling the introduction of slide rules (remember those?) and calculators into math testing, educators decided that the end goal of getting the answer was more important than having their students understand the process.

In the "real world," precious few people can spell above third grade level, and as few also use their spell checkers.

Once they figure out how to get MS Word to do the thinking and writing, they can pay kids $10 dollars an hour to pull the paper off the printer and make neat stacks of them.

Where has our collective vision of our future gone?


On Feb 1, 2012, at 7:37 AM, "Dan Goldstein" <DGoldstein -at- riveraintech -dot- com> wrote:

> "We are not letting a student's keyboarding skills get in the way of being able to judge their writing ability," said state Superintendent Susan Castillo.
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> The state Superintendent thinks that all spelling errors are the result of hitting the wrong key on the keyboard. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
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> Obviously, you don't "have to be good at spelling to be a good writer." But that's not the question at hand.
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> Do you have to be good at spelling to be a good writer? Not necessarily, at least not in Oregon public schools?
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> http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2010/12/oregon_will_allo
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> I think spelling, grammar ,and structure are as important as content. IMHO, this is just another way to push kids through the public school system.
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References:
RE: Yay or Nay: From: Dan Goldstein
Re: Yay or Nay: From: John Allred

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