Re: More Low Paying Jobs

Subject: Re: More Low Paying Jobs
From: voxwoman <voxwoman -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: John Allred <jack -at- allrednet -dot- com>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:31:38 -0500

I think it's the contract house that's advertising at this ridiculous rate;
not the actual employer. The employer may be offering something reasonable,
and the contract house is taking the lion's share of the rate. I have also
seen colleagues get a contract house to raise their rates during
negotiations to an actual liveable wage.




On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, John Allred <jack -at- allrednet -dot- com> wrote:

> If this is true, isn't there an ethical issue at stake? Consider this
> scenario. I have "Bob," already employed here, tagged for this job. I know
> I'm going to pay him oh, say, $75k a year. But, to satisfy some
> requirement, I advertise the job publicly for $13/hour.
>
> In this case, I probably know one of two things. Either no one will be
> foolish enough to apply for the job (it not being credible) or, if they do,
> I know I would never hire them, under any circumstances. I'm not sure I'd
> care to be Bob. I'm not sure he could trust anything I tell him about his
> position with the company.
>
> I don't even want to consider the third option, that it's possible a
> manager thinks he or she might get a valuable employee for this job at
> $13/hour or would be willing to take advantage of someone in that way.
>
> ~john
>
>
>
> On 3/9/2012 3:48 PM, Suzette Leeming wrote:
>
>> Peter said " There is another possibility--the job is advertised badly so
>> that it can be filled internally. They have someone picked out already,
>> but
>> have to advertise outside. They want to spend as little time as possible
>> wading through applicants who might actually be qualified. "
>>
>> That makes more sense, and I almost wish that is the case.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Peter Neilson<neilson -at- windstream -dot- net**
>> >wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:12:50 -0500, Dan Goldstein<
>>> DGoldstein -at- riveraintech -dot- com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I still don't see how a company could pass regulatory on digital avionic
>>>
>>>> products with an inexperienced technical editor. Unless... Is this
>>>> actually an editorial assistant to the real TW, who has the requisite
>>>> knowledge? If it's an apprenticeship, then the hourly wage makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> Of course! It's not an apprenticeship, because it's only a few months.
>>> Instead it's a>>technical typist<< shoehorned into a fancier job title.
>>> They probably need someone who can transcribe printed docs, or who can
>>> proofread stuff that's been badly ocr-ified. Should also be able to make
>>> coffee without scalding herself, and watch the boss's child on occasion.
>>>
>>> Military, aviation, etc. used to have a lot of people in this sort of
>>> category, called secretaries, typists, filing clerks. Nearly all were
>>> poorly paid and nearly all were female.
>>>
>>> Underneath the glamor of the job title there is the understanding that
>>> this person will have zero opportunity to screw things up by changing
>>> even
>>> one word of text without approval.
>>>
>>> I've known people who have held these jobs, and who seethed as they saw
>>> technically inaccurate material pass through as they reformatted it,
>>> having
>>> no authority even to mention the error to anyone who could fix it!
>>>
>>> There is another possibility--the job is advertised badly so that it can
>>> be filled internally. They have someone picked out already, but have to
>>> advertise outside. They want to spend as little time as possible wading
>>> through applicants who might actually be qualified.
>>>
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References:
More Low Paying Jobs: From: Stephen Arrants
RE: More Low Paying Jobs: From: Combs, Richard
RE: More Low Paying Jobs: From: Dan Goldstein
Re: More Low Paying Jobs: From: Peter Neilson
Re: More Low Paying Jobs: From: Suzette Leeming
Re: More Low Paying Jobs: From: John Allred

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