Re: Back again.... looking...

Subject: Re: Back again.... looking...
From: Robin Davidson <robin -at- robinsdesigns -dot- net>
To: "Cardimon, Craig" <ccardimon -at- M-S-G -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:30:48 -0500

Craig,

I was thinking my view would be nothing but trees.

Robin

On 12/19/12 2:21 PM, Cardimon, Craig wrote:

I predict some lovely shots of a parking lot....

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Subject: Re: Back again.... looking...

I see... I'm not sure that I'll ever have a chance to visit the U.S., so, that would be great if you could post online some photos taken out of your window :)


2012/12/20 Kat Kuvinka <katkuvinka -at- hotmail -dot- com>

Forgive me for not knowing my audience! Yes Alec, in many areas of the
US, tech jobs have been lean for long, too long...

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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:32:33 +0600
Subject: Re: Back again.... looking...
From: alec -dot- chakenov -at- gmail -dot- com
To: katkuvinka -at- hotmail -dot- com
CC: tonyc -at- tonychung -dot- ca; wade -dot- courtney -at- gmail -dot- com;
techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com

What is currently happening "in this economy" that you are writing about?
Tough times? (I'm slightly in the opposite part of the globe, where
everything is stable, although a bit cold.)

2012/12/20 Kat Kuvinka <katkuvinka -at- hotmail -dot- com>

geez Tony, we are going to call you Tony Robbins 8^)

After my last job ended I stressed about what to say to the point I
could not sleep at night. And although some recruiters asked me what
happened, no actual prospective employer ever did. Not sure if i was
lucky, or in this economy people assume you were laid off.

Kathee



On Wednesday, December 19, 2012, Wade Courtney wrote:

So, what do you say to a prospective employer when they ask why
you
were
let go?


The toughest questions are always around leaving: why did you leave,
why are you leaving, or why were you let go? Your answer shows how
well you know yourself, your passions and goals, your ability to
read the environment and culture, and ultimately whether you'll be a
good fit with the interviewing organization.

It doesn't pay to lie or editorialize your reason. You could sell
yourself
to a company so well that they hire you. Only then you find the job
isn't the right fit.

In Robert's case, he was told he didn't fit in with the strategic
goals
of
the company. Did they mean that he specialized in an area that the
company
no longer required? Were they unsure of his ability to adapt to
change, learn new skills, or whatever would suit the bew world
order? Great! That means he has a specialty, and if he markets it
well, he could find work that he could be more passionate about.

Did the company mean that they had different staffing ideas, such as
wanting to hire friends or relatives? Then Robert is good to be out
of
that
company, who would trade professionalism and experience for
preservation
of
the family line. Even if the company kept both members on staff, the
odds of Robert winning an argument that involved the family member are slim.

Or did the company mean they didn't feel confident that Robert could
do
the
job they wanted him to do? In this case, it pays to learn new skills
and techniques, throw together a portfolio, and sell the departure
as a learning experience. Employers love stories of how their
competition
sent a
good candidate to the streets, only to find him rise like Phoenix
from
the
ashes, bigger, better, and bolder than ever.

Whatever the reasons for departure, there is no excuse to let that
reason affect your job hunt. If you're willing, you can learn so
much about yourself and the work you were called to do. Arm yourself
with that knowledge and find new work that fuels your passion.

-Tony
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References:
Back again.... looking...: From: Robert Courtney
RE: Back again.... looking...: From: Erika Yanovich
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Gene Kim-Eng
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Keith Hood
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Gene Kim-Eng
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Keith Hood
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Gene Kim-Eng
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Keith Hood
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Wade Courtney
Back again.... looking...: From: Tony Chung
RE: Back again.... looking...: From: Kat Kuvinka
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Alec Chakenov
RE: Back again.... looking...: From: Kat Kuvinka
Re: Back again.... looking...: From: Alec Chakenov
RE: Back again.... looking...: From: Cardimon, Craig

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