RE: [RMX:NL] Re: Into the Frying Pan

Subject: RE: [RMX:NL] Re: Into the Frying Pan
From: Slager Timothy J <Timothy -dot- Slager -at- dematic -dot- com>
To: "salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com" <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>, "techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:15:02 +0000

You could decide to stay in spite of its being a likely failure. Read Ed Yourdon's book Death March. Then decide what if any good could come from it.

It could be the ultimate challenge, if you like that sort of thing. You'll learn a lot. But you can't let its success or failure determine your stress level.

tims

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From: techwr-l-bounces+timothy -dot- slager=dematic -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+timothy -dot- slager=dematic -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com] On Behalf Of Chris Morton
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 12:52 PM
To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Subject: [RMX:NL] Re: Into the Frying Pan

Thanks, all, and please keep it coming.

I especially appreciate the responses from you long-time Whirlers who know exactly the situation in which I now find myself (again*).

Two songs come to mind:

*Killing Floor* - Electric Flag (yeah, I know it's a cover) *Won't Get Fooled Again* - Who

> Chris

*The first occurred almost 10 years ago on a Deloitte-(mis)run project for the CA Dept. of Workers' Comp. There I had what now appears to be the same manager, albeit of an opposing gender. And I found Deloitte to be much like Amway, in that freshman managers recruited mirror-fogging warm bodies so as to become sophomore(ic) managers.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Gene Kim-Eng <techwr -at- genek -dot- com> wrote:

> I would go.
>
> Remember that bit of boilerplate in new hire letters that refers to a
> probationary period? Don't forget that you are also evaluating them.
>
> It doesn't sound to me as if there's any great payback for success in
> this position. And you're new enough on the job that you can just
> leave it off your resume.
>
> The only real question is, go right now, or find another position
> first, and that's determined by your stress level and the reserves in
> your bank account.
>
> Gene Kim-Eng
>
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References:
Into the Frying Pan: From: Chris Morton
Re: Into the Frying Pan: From: Chris Morton
Re: Into the Frying Pan: From: Gene Kim-Eng
Re: Into the Frying Pan: From: Chris Morton

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