RE: punctuation et al. rules

Subject: RE: punctuation et al. rules
From: "Cardimon, Craig" <ccardimon -at- M-S-G -dot- com>
To: 'Ken Poshedly' <poshedly -at- bellsouth -dot- net>, "'Wright, Lynne'" <Lynne -dot- Wright -at- Kronos -dot- com>, "'salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com'" <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>, "'techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com'" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:43:33 +0000

Diplomacy in all things, especially when you're right.

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From: techwr-l-bounces+ccardimon=m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+ccardimon=m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 3:42 PM
To: Wright, Lynne <Lynne -dot- Wright -at- Kronos -dot- com>; salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com; techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Subject: Re: punctuation et al. rules

Many thanks to all.
I'll review what you've sent and be the diplomat.
-- Ken in Atlanta


On Monday, February 20, 2017 3:34 PM, "Wright, Lynne" <Lynne -dot- Wright -at- Kronos -dot- com> wrote:


If he resists, I'd give in though.

Its unlikely that the average reader is going to notice whether there is a hyphen or not.

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Sent: February-20-17 3:31 PM
To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Subject: Re: punctuation et al. rules

In the end it boils down to what is going to help the reader.

For me, I'm much more familiar seeing 7-pin than I am instances w/o the hyphen.

Chris Morton



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On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Stuckey, Ginger <X2BVSHEW -at- southernco -dot- com>
wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> I wrote parts and service manuals for a garbage truck manufacturer in
> a state next door to you. We did it with the hyphen. If you want more
> examples.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailer_connectors_in_North_America
> https://www.etrailer.com/question-136174.html
> http://data.grammarbook.com/blog/numbers/hyphens-with-numbers/
> http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/16/images/ch07_tab01.pdf
> http://writing-skills.com/how-to-write-numbers-part-2-when-to-use-hyph
> ens
>
>
> Ginger Stuckey
> Technical Writer
> CB&A Project Management Services, LLC
> Assigned to Southern Company Technical Publications
> 205-992-5651
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techwr-l-bounces+x2bvshew=southernco -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com [mailto:
> techwr-l-bounces+x2bvshew=southernco -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com] On Behalf
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> Ken Poshedly
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 2:19 PM
> To: TECHWR-L Writing <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
> Subject: punctuation et al. rules
>
> Here's a quickie.
>
> I work for a manufacturer of a China-based, heavy construction equipment.
> Now that's, REAL hardware.
>
> Most of our source material is English-language stuff is right from
> the company's offices in mainland China, where their English-language
> skills are fair at best. The remainder of our source material is what
> we here write IF we are lucky enough to have the machine here on our
> premises for photos and inspection.
>
> My American manager is a nice guy (about age 60, and I'm seven years
> older) but he is not a true tech writer. He is an ex-Marine who had
>written the technical stuff for a heavy equipment dealer where he was
>employed for some years, and very proud of it. And he certainly knows
>his stuff from a technical side of things. Absolutely. Many times,
>he'll forward a Word document for me to format (we use FrameMaker
> 11.0) that he has written and I'll usually find little stuff to fix,
>but then he'll quibble with me about it. I usually give in because he's the boss.
>Â In today's document from him is the phrase "7 pin connector". My fix
>was to simply add a hyphen to make it "7-pin connector". But he
>objected and I VERY diplomatically told him that in our industry, it
>is common to take mechanics and other factory workers with oodles of
>line experience and throw them in front of a keyboard to write the
>manuals, thus the rough grammar, etc. And blindly copying what
>somebody else wrote means replicating their errors (if any). He agrees
>but says that he has NEVER seen various things that I show him in any
>other tech manuals by other companies in this industry.
> So what is the official rule for the use of hyphenated modifiers. Like
>I said, this is VERY minor but good writing is supposed to be correct
>in punctuation as well as word usage, etc. And this isn't even a tech
>writing rule, but a punctuation rule that should apply everywhere.
>
> So if anyone has a website (ESPECIALLY a heavy construction equipment
> website) that shows correct usage, or a website that states the
> correct punctuation rules, I'd be much obliged. Hopefully, I'll be
> able to reference it for future "things."
>
> -- Ken in Atlanta
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References:
punctuation et al. rules: From: Ken Poshedly
RE: punctuation et al. rules: From: Stuckey, Ginger
Re: punctuation et al. rules: From: Chris Morton
RE: punctuation et al. rules: From: Wright, Lynne
Re: punctuation et al. rules: From: Ken Poshedly

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