Re: Useful training/certifications - not ST or just tech writing

Subject: Re: Useful training/certifications - not ST or just tech writing
From: Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>
To: TECHWR-L Writing <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:10:30 -0700

Having worked in with teams following Scrum by the book, I think
knowing how agile development teams are supposed to work is unlikely
to give a tech writer any insight into the real-world challenge of of
coupling deadlines for customer-facing docs with development sprints.

In a company that's not really agile, the people who could benefit
from training are the product owners and whoever will perform the role
of Scrum master. (Scrum is a proper noun, agile is just an adjective.)

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Shari Punyon <sharipunyon -at- gmail -dot- com> wrote:
> I disagree with this statement. Very few workplaces implement Agile
> methodology effectively, and having training on the way Agile development is
> SUPPOSED to happen puts you way ahead of the curve right now.
>
> I also don't have a problem just calling Agile in casual conversation,
> although I'd never put it on a resume that way!
>
> Most amusing Agile quote to date: Yeah, we do Agile. Agile like an elephant
> in a tutu.
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Being certified for some flavor of agile (not a proper noun)
>> methodology seems like a waste of time if the developers are not
>> actually practicing it. Putting that on your resume could conceivably
>> get you in trouble if you don't have the real-world experience to
>> answer a hiring manager's questions about working with agile teams.
>>
>> What might stand out to me if looking through resumes of applications
>> for an open position would be programming classes that would be useful
>> on the job, such as SQL or CSS.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Wroblewski, Victoria
>> <victoria -dot- wroblewski -at- necect -dot- com> wrote:
>> > Hello all -
>> >
>> > Boss stumbled across an Agile training course that looked of interest to
>> > our group (our division of the company is supposed to be following Agile
>> > methodology but it's still largely waterfall in the guise of Agile) and
>> > signed us up for it. Result of it will be an actual Agile
>> > certification-thingy (technical term) that will be a boost for our team that
>> > we are a little more than just writer monkeys, and one more thing to list on
>> > the resume. And it will hopefully get us better ideas on how to be more
>> > involved in the Agile process with documentation.
>> >
>> > Anyone out there done any other training/certification that is NOT
>> > specifically tool related or an attempt to prove we know technical writing
>> > when we've all been doing this for 20 years?
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References:
Re: Useful training/certifications - not ST or just tech writing: From: Robert Lauriston
Re: Useful training/certifications - not ST or just tech writing: From: Shari Punyon

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