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Re: Ig Nobel documentation

Subject: Re: Ig Nobel documentation
From: Mark Giffin <mgiffin -at- earthlink -dot- net>
To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:36:05 -0800

Hey John Allred, I asked my friend and sure enough, he still to this day uses Ventura Publisher for some of his projects. It's a pre-Corel 1993 version, making it 27 years old!! I copied what he wrote me below, maybe this can help you to keep VP running. I think it's hilarious that his version of VP does not support JPEG so he converts to TIFF. This guy does things his own way.

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Yes, indeed. I use the last version put out by Xerox: 4.1.1 for Windows. The latest OS it will run on is Windows XP SP1. I've got that installed in Oracle's VirtualBox which I launch on my Win 7 32-bit system. I'd be running Win 7 64 on that system but having tried that with VirtualBox, Ventura would not run. Changing the OS to 32 bit and setting up a temp directory that Ventura expects to see, I was able to get it working. I use VP for [a small newspaper] and for long book projects as the type handling and paragraph styles are first rate. It's very good at handling images and graphics, though JPG was not mainstream yet so I convert images to TIF before importing into a VP project.

The VP Chapter file (.CHP) mainly links to outside docs and graphics, though you can enter text directly in frames that will be saved in VP's .CAP file (captions).

Corel bought VP from Xerox but their "upgrades" were not stable and I could never get it to work as well as the older version.
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Mark Giffin


On 1/2/2020 12:10 AM, Mark Giffin wrote:

I'm interested! I used Ventura Publisher in the late 80s on for a few years. It was on an early version of Windows and I believe Ventura came with its own strange GUI program, can't remember what that was called...

I have a friend who just kept using Ventura and as afar as I know he still uses it to publish some kind of catalog. I imagine it's in some virtual machine at this point. I recall his version was at least 17 years old.

Mark Giffin
Mark Giffin Consulting, Inc.
http://markgiffin.com/

On 12/31/2019 7:10 PM, Jay Maechtlen wrote:
On 12/31/2019 5:27 PM, John Allred wrote:
I used to be a strong proponent for Ventura, right up until my last update of equipment and OS in the past couple of months. Although Corel ceased upgrades past 2002, I continued using it for above 15 years. Doubtful anyone is interested, but I have some sample docs on my portfolio web site that are incredibly complex. I couldn't imagine learning new software to accomplish what I did back then. One example is a telephone directory for state agencies and employees. Ventura had a bundled database publisher that made this doable, with care and effort. http://nwatechwriting.com/docs/phonebook.pdf, if interested. FWIW, my name appears on page 35.

Just feeling lowly at this mention, since I finally pulled the plug on it this month. I just couldn't make it operate under Win10.

Very sad.

~John Allred

If I felt the need, I'd just run it on one of my win2k VMs, or maybe an XP vm.

Virtualbox is free...


On 12/31/2019 7:12 PM, John G wrote:
Ventura ... that rings some very old bells...

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 6:06 PM Jay Maechtlen <techwriter -at- laserpubs -dot- com>
wrote:

On 10/23/2018 8:54 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
People still index! At my current company, any document over about 20
pages
(not including covers, TOCs, generated lists and legal stuff) gets an
index. This is a first for me, and I've been enjoying learning how to
create a (hopefully) good index.
Nice - I think the last time I got to do an index was when I was still
building manuals with Ventura.


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