Re: Advanced Degrees

Subject: Re: Advanced Degrees
From: John Posada <jposada -at- NOTES -dot- CC -dot- BELLCORE -dot- COM>
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:37:12 -0500

Something I've always wondered regarding having or not having a degree on a
resume. Mind you that this is just a question for thought and not an
indication of what I would do or have done....especially since I don't have.

With the workload placed on HR departments, how many of them actualy check to
see if you've received the degree that you say you have. I'm not talking about
credentials for a doctor, lawyer, or political position where you have to be
approved by congress ...but if you were to say that you received a BS or BA
from an average run-of-the-mill institution, would they find out...or would
they even try to find out?

I expect that a probable answer might be that they probably wouldn't find out,
but if they did, you would be fired. So that case, you probably
wouldn't have the job in the first place.

Just food for thought.

John Posada

At 11:00 AM 11/26/96 -0700, Alisa Dean wrote:
>To be honest, the lack of degree has been an obstacle to me, even now.
>I have lost at least 5 major opportunities, two in the last 3 years,
>because I did not have a degree. It seems that HR will set this as
>an absolute minimum in some places, and it doesn't matter my knowledge
>and experience base. I was once told at a job fair that even if I had
>a liberal arts degree, I would have been hired. Or the interviewer
>had a snobbish opinion that anyone without a degree is inherently inferior.

Anyone who has worked for a big company knows that HR departments exist to
reduce a list of possible applicants for hiring managers. They usually do it
by using the most unimaginative process - sorting out those applicants who
have the fewest matches for the "criteria" fed to them by hiring managers.
If that means eliminating very skilled people because they don't have
college degrees, so be it.

As a pubs manager in a previous life, I always wondered about the fine
candidates who were eliminated in any stack of resumes I received by
mindless HR clerical workers. I even dreamed up a kind of ombudsman function
in HR that would go through the rejected resumes and unearth the gems that
would inevitably be found there. An interesting idea that would never be
implemented in the "real" world.

--Wayne Douglass
Verity, Inc. Email: wayned -at- verity -dot- com
894 Ross Drive Telephone: 408-542-2139
Sunnyvale, CA 94089 Facsimile: 408-542-2040

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