Re: HTML editor: does everyone need to be on the same page?

Subject: Re: HTML editor: does everyone need to be on the same page?
From: julie brodeur/mccready <jool -at- petting-zoo -dot- net>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- raycomm -dot- com>
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:13:04 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, John Posada wrote:

> What the WYSIWYG authoring tools are, is a tool. What they produce is
> up to the expertise and imagination of the user. There is nothing
> within the capabilities of FP or any WYSIWYG editor that prevents
> someone from producing a feature-rich and perfectly presentable web
> page.

That's true; however, most WYSIWYG tools add their own "cruft" which can
be undecipherable to another WYSIWYG tool. So if you're using Frame and
then using Save As HTML to create a Web page, and you're handing the
project (or part of the project) off to me, I had better be using Frame as
well. I _could_ export/import the file (say, into MS Word), but the
original HTML will probably get pretty messed up. You and I would have to
agree on a common, simple template that minimized export/import
problems--and that template might be too limited to ultimately meet our
needs. In this example, it would be more efficient if we just both used
the same WYSIWYG tool to begin with.

When two or more people need to edit or update the same files, I think
it's a real time-saver for everyone to be using the same WYSIWYG tool to
create their content.

> I can also spot a some documents made with Word or with Frame, or
> sometimnes, an image that was produced by Illustrator. Does that mean
> that since I can recognize the authoring tool, that the authoring
> tool is at fault, or is it the user?

It's quite often the tool, I'm afraid. I can be really diligent about my
application of paragraph styles, but Homesite 4.0 is _still_ going to use
<div> tags everywhere, and Word 2000 is _still_ going to add XML coding to
my HTML.

> BTW...I think the reason that many FP web sites are recognizable is
> that since the program is relatively cheap is an MS product, and
> comes with templates, when a beginner needs a web authoring tool,
> they pick FP. What you are seeing is the result of a beginner, not
> the result of the application. That same beginner would produce the
> calibre of site using notepad or DW.

I seem to recall that an earlier version of DreamWeaver actually added a
bunch of tags that Homesite 4.0 (or maybe 3.5) did not.

Sorry if I didn't get the essence of this thread or repeated some things
people have already mentioned.

And I hope John doesn't get mad at me for taking some of his comments out
of context. ;)



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