Re: Re: Russian font and Pagemaker?

Subject: Re: Re: Russian font and Pagemaker?
From: Valerie Priester <hammerl -at- buffalo -dot- edu>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- raycomm -dot- com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:23:35 -0400

Funny thing. I can bring up the basic Character Map in Windows and see a
whole host of Cyrillic characters under Arial. I can set up Russian in Word
2000, and by pressing left Alt-Shift toggle into the Cyrillic keyboard I
can switch all the text to Arial. It shows up as Cyrillic. Just for the
heck of it, I thought I'd try copying it into PageMaker (I have 6.5), and I
found that worked, but only if I mapped the font to Arial CYR (which I
assume is the Arial font in Cyrillic). I did not purchase this font
separately, as I have no need for it at work. I also see I have Courier New
CYR and Times New Roman CYR, neither of which I purchased, so I assume
these came with something.

Perhaps these become options when Windows and Word are set up for Russian?
I followed the steps at

These steps did something beyond Office. Pressing left Alt-Shift in
PageMaker enables the Cyrillic mode there, too, and I then just had to
select Arial CYR (which I don't recall ever being there before!). You might
want to try it and see if you suddenly have access to things.

Note also I was unable to successfully import the text, but could copy and
paste it from Word.

Valerie Priester
hammerl -at- buffalo -dot- edu

--On Friday, October 19, 2001, 8:47 AM -0400 "Hart, Geoff"
<Geoff-H -at- MTL -dot- FERIC -dot- CA> wrote:

> Jennifer O Neill has just received <<... a Word doc written in Russian and
> must put it into a multilingual document done in Pagemaker. The font used
> in Word is Arial. This is the first time I'll have used a cyrillic
> language in PM.>>

> Whoa! Are you sure it's really in Arial? Arial is emphatically not a
> cyrillic font, and I'd be surprised if even unicode Arial contains the
> Cyrillic character set. Some day, yes, but probably not now.

> <<Copying the Word text into PM doesn't work as I don't have a cyrillic
> font for PM.>>

> If you've got the font in Word, how can it not be available in PM?
> Assuming both are on the same computer, you should have equal access to
> all fonts in both programs. A few notes: If you're indeed using a unicode
> font in Word, I don't believe you'll be able to use it in PM 6.5 (which
> makes no mention of such fonts in its index and thus probably doesn't
> support them; there may be a patch on Adobe's Web site, but I haven't
> checked).

> <<If I buy such a font, eg an Adobe helvetica cyrillic font, when I copy
> over the text from Word and change its font to cyrillic, will all be
> well?>>

> You shouldn't be copying and pasting text from Word into PM. Clean up the
> Word file, make sure the styles are consistent, then import the file. If
> you've done a complete install of PM, you should have all the necessary
> import filters. If not, you can get them off your installation CD or from
> Adobe's Web site. Once the file is in PM, you can simply update the Word
> styles (which PM adds to its style palette) or replace them with your own
> styles (using the advanced features in the Search and replace function).
> Then delete the old Word styles from the palette by dragging them to the
> trashcan.

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