RE: "lorem ipsum", "brown fox" & "enter title here" PDF titles

Subject: RE: "lorem ipsum", "brown fox" & "enter title here" PDF titles
From: "Combs, Richard" <richard -dot- combs -at- Polycom -dot- com>
To: <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 10:45:01 -0700

Dick Margulis wrote:

> Dori Green wrote:
> > Why Latin came to be used for the "greeking" process is just one of
> > those _really_ arcane language lore thingies. It's
> probably because
> > early MS fonts didn't include Greek letters. They were
> used for the
> > hot type placeholders precisely because there was no
> mistaking them for English text.
> >
> Lorem ipsum has been used for greeking since long before
> computers were invented. My speculation is that the term
> greeking comes from "it's all Greek to me" and is basically a
> bit of printers' humor.

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Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom


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