RE: A little respect for "unvalidated"

Subject: RE: A little respect for "unvalidated"
From: "Pinkham, Jim" <Jim -dot- Pinkham -at- voith -dot- com>
To: "Gene Kim-Eng" <techwr -at- genek -dot- com>, <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:07:07 -0500

Just to throw another field into the mix.... back in another lifetime
when I was in college preparing for student teaching, we took a class in
"tests and measures".

When teachers constructed a test that measured what it was intended to
measure, accurately and unambiguously, then the test was "valid". If the
test could do so consistently, it was "reliable".

As you suggest, a test that had never been given to students and
subsequently analyzed to make sure it worked as intended, was
"unvalidated." A test proven not to work as intended was "invalidated."

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Subject: Re: A little respect for "unvalidated"

It refers to something that was previously considered validated and has
had its validation revoked. This may be the result of a routine retest
(some things are required to be periodically revalidated), a retest
resulting a challenge filed against its validation, or a retest
triggered by it being involved in an "incident" that a properly
validated product.

Something that has never successfully been validated is "unvalidated,"
regardless of whether it has failed a hundred trials or has never been
tested.

Note that "validation" and "valid" are not given the same treatment.
"Validation" refers specifically to the formal process, "valid" does
not. So "invalidated" means that something very, very bad has happened,
but "invalid"
does not necessarily.

And yes, it is jargon to someone not in the field. Every term with a
specific meaning in-context is jargon to someone, somewhere.

GeneK


----- Original Message -----
From: "McLauchlan, Kevin" <Kevin -dot- McLauchlan -at- safenet-inc -dot- com>
>So, "invalidated", in those industries, refers only to items (systems,
>processes, whatever) that have previously been >successfully validated,

>and are in currently validated state when the test is applied... and
>this time they've failed. So, the >named industries have another word
>that conveys "found to be invalid or not validatable, but this was the
first-ever >attempt, so it was not
>previously in validated state", yes? What would that word be?



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References:
A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Dan Goldstein
RE: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Combs, Richard
RE: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Handy, David
RE: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Dan Goldstein
Re: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Robert Lauriston
RE: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: McLauchlan, Kevin
Re: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Robert Lauriston
Re: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Gene Kim-Eng
RE: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: McLauchlan, Kevin
Re: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Gene Kim-Eng
RE: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: McLauchlan, Kevin
Re: A little respect for "unvalidated": From: Gene Kim-Eng

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