RE: Redneck step of the day...

Subject: RE: Redneck step of the day...
From: "Pinkham, Jim" <Jim -dot- Pinkham -at- voith -dot- com>
To: "Nancy Allison" <maker -at- verizon -dot- net>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:45:11 -0600

Well, Nancy, being from Maine originally, I appreciate the further
color. And, yes, before reading the article, I'd never really considered
ye to be just plural, but neither can I say I'd pursued the subject
deeply enough to know one way or the other.

Since you enjoy Maine speech, you'd probably love E.B. White's essay,
appropriately titled "Maine Speech." I believe it's part of the
collection in "One Man's Meat." Definitely one of my favorite essays :)

Jim

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On Dec 18, 2009, Pinkham, Jim <Jim -dot- Pinkham -at- voith -dot- com> wrote:

I turned to Wikipedia, too, and the author of that article maintains
that "ye" is the archaic second person plural,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_person.

I remembered something as I read this Jim's remark. A friend of mine who
is From Away (did not grow up in Maine) has lived in the Maine coast for
many years. There is an ice cream place near her called Dorman's. She
told me that a friend of hers, an older man and lifelong Mainer, called
out to her "I seen ye putting the ice cream to ye over Dorman's!"

He was speaking of her alone, at least that's how I've always understood
the story. So, at least in mid-coast Maine, "ye" has a singular
application.

I was thinking, though, that while "y'all" may be a recent Americanism
(by recent, I mean the last 200-300 years), it might possibly also go
back to something like "Ye all." A quick googling of the term "ye all"
turns up what seem like examples of recent wordplay by individual
people, but also this listing:

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/hyp-idx?type=id&size=First+100&id=HY
P.2720.19990513T124835

It's a manuscript of a Middle English poem. Can't see the actual text.

Ah well, anyway, I love Maine speech and have always loved my friend's
story. Jim just gave me an excuse to tell it!

--Nancy

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