RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea

Subject: RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea
From: "Green, Duane" <Duane -dot- Green -at- e-hps -dot- com>
To: "lemay -at- lauralemay -dot- com" <lemay -at- lauralemay -dot- com>, "techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 17:56:09 +0000

Great thoughts!! Thanks for sharing.

Duane

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I screen tech writer resumes for my group at a Very Large Internet Company. I have a few points, only some of which are related to the topic at hand:

+ We use an internal system for tracking candidates and resumes. I
+ only
see resumes and not cover letters or email greetings. The resumes are stripped of all formatting; all I see is machine-generated text. (some PDFs reduce to text better than others.)

+ I see resumes of all lengths but almost never look past the first
handful of jobs on any resume. IMHO it is far better to be more detailed about what you did at your current job than try to squish 20 years of experience into two pages.

+ It is totally miraculous to get any resume that is well-structured,
clearly written, and does not contain significant grammar or typographical errors. Like 1 in 100. Nothing has made me despair for our profession more than screening resumes.

+ About 30% of the time we get our resumes directly as automated output
from LinkedIn profiles. The moment I realized this was happening I rewrote my linkedin profile to duplicate the text on my resume. And if you're not on linkedin, you are missing out on work.

+ I google every potential candidate. If you are a difficult blowhard
+ on
the internet, I won't approve you. no matter how good a tech writer you are. Yes, I know that many people can have the same name, and I only make this judgement if I can be sure the difficult blowhard is you. On the other hand, I approve of a sense of humor if you demonstrate it on the Internet, but I am not interested in seeing your sense of humor in your resume. On the third hand I have no opinion at all about your drunk naked facebook photos, but I will judge you poorly for not knowing how to set your privacy settings.

Takeaways: the traditional resume is dead. We all live on the internet.
Please get a friend to read and edit your resume.

Laura



On 9/5/12 9:46 AM, "Porrello, Leonard" <lporrello -at- illumina -dot- com> wrote:

Instead of, "a senior tech writer should have an understanding of how to communicate effectively in a very concise way", wouldn't you want to say, "a senior tech writer should understand how to communicate effectively and concisely." In any case, I am sure you wouldn't want your sentence (and
idea) reduced to, "a writer should understand how to communicate"; which is really no different from, "a writer should write". For the sake of concision, would you mind if I redacted and revised your original sentence to "a writer should write"?

I understand the two page expectation, and while I respect it for the reality that it is, I also think it is absurd--and apart from giving pragmatic advice, it is the last thing a professional writer should be promoting. Like "any other story" (or a mathematics formula), a resume needs to be as long as it needs to be (and no longer). I've worked in several different industries (telephony, ERP, ILM, elections, and biotech), and I've held each job for a significant period of time. Consequently, while I mention only what is unique and significant to each job, my resume is nevertheless five pages. I have never had a problem finding excellent jobs with variations of this resume.

While I think "keep it to two pages" is probably good advice in general, I don't agree that a senior tech writer should be able to squeeze, say, five pages of genuinely meaningful and pertinent information into two pages. A senior tech writer who can communicate effectively and concisely should understand that over-redacting a document does a disservice to the reader.



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To: Milan Davidovi&#263;; Green, Duane
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Subject: RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea

He shouldn't HAVE to specify those things... its common knowledge that you should try to keep resumes to 2 pages maximum and only stick to the most recent/relevant/significant past jobs; and as Duane pointed out, a senior tech writer should have an understanding of how to communicate effectively in a very concise way.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 11:50 AM
To: Green, Duane
Cc: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Subject: Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Green, Duane <Duane -dot- Green -at- e-hps -dot- com> wrote:
I received several resumes that were 8-10 pages long, and included every contact writing assignment they'd worked at for the last 20+ years.

When writing the job posting, had you considered specifying length and/or time range of the resume?

--
Milan Davidovi&#263;
http://twitter.com/altmilan
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
http://ca.linkedin.com/in/milandavidovic

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References:
OT: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: yehoshua paul
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Lynne Wright
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Kat Kuvinka
Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Yehoshua
Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Lauren
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Will Husa Documentation Solutions
Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Lauren
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Green, Duane
Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Milan Davidović
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Dan Goldstein
Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Milan Davidović
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Dan Goldstein
Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Milan Davidović
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Combs, Richard
Re: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Milan Davidović
RE: Having fun with your resume - good idea/bad idea: From: Lynne Wright
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