Re: Wikipedia question

Subject: Re: Wikipedia question
From: yehoshua paul <ysp10182 -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: Peter Neilson <neilson -at- windstream -dot- net>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:02:18 +0300

I am not surprised that the article in Hebrew was accepted. Based on my own
personal impressions, and the things that I have heard and read, I would
consider the information there to be unbalanced, and written from an
Israeli perspective.
Compare the Hebrew and English articles on Rambam hospital. The Hebrew
article while informative also reads like an advertisement for the hospital.
If your director has achieved sufficient global notability then someone
will eventually write an article on him. I wouldn't bother writing one for
him, you won't own it or be able to control it, and as you have already
seen the article will probably keep on getting deleted because the person
has not achieved a sufficient level of international fame/relevance to
justify his own Wikipedia page.

Yehoshua




On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Peter Neilson <neilson -at- windstream -dot- net>wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:56:56 -0400, Debbie Hemstreet <
> D_Hemstreet -at- rambam -dot- health -dot- **gov -dot- il <D_Hemstreet -at- rambam -dot- health -dot- gov -dot- il>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>>
>> The director where I work wants a Wikipedia page put up about him.
>>
>> I've put one up and added what I believe are reliable references and
>> twice his page has been rejected. Now here is what I don't get. His page in
>> Hebrew was accepted without 1 reference.
>>
>> This is essentially the same page, but in English, with lots of
>> references. Why does it keep getting rejected? I think some of the wiki
>> editors take themselves WAY too seriously...
>>
>> Any ideas or suggestions?
>>
>
> There are many good reasons to avoid writing this article at all, in any
> language. That he's succeeded in creating one in Hebrew merely shows that
> the Hebrew edition is not as widely read nor as carefully edited as some
> other editions. The major reason to avoid writing the article is that
> ANYONE can change the article. He has no control at all over the content.
> In articles that I edit from time to time I have trouble maintaining "stub"
> links to unwritten articles about historical persons. They get edited out
> because "nobody has heard of them."
>
> That your director is the one who wants the article is a sufficient reason
> for any Wikipedia editor to delete it. Who are these editors? ANYONE! You,
> me, King Harald of Norway, or my brother Fred. I don't know about King
> Harald, but the rest of that list are active editors.
>
> Here's what Wikipedia says:
>
> } Can I start an article about myself or my company?
> }
> } We strongly discourage this. Wikipedia is intended to be an objective
> } resource, and it's very, very difficult for people to be fully objective
> } about themselves or their company.
> }
> } If your life and achievements are verifiable and genuinely notable,
> } then sooner or later someone else will probably create an article
> } about you. If you write an article about yourself, the chances are
> } pretty good that it will be deleted, and people may say uncomplimentary
> } things about you on the talk page.
> }
> } Please note also that anything you write on Wikipedia will be
> } mercilessly edited by others. Sometimes people who write about
> } themselves end up requesting that their articles be deleted because
> } the original piece has, over time, changed in ways they didn't like.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wikipedia:FAQ/Article_**
> subjects#Can_I_start_an_**article_about_myself_or_my_**company.3F<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Article_subjects#Can_I_start_an_article_about_myself_or_my_company.3F>
>
> It's part of this list of subjects:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wikipedia:FAQ/Article_subjects<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Article_subjects>
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Wikipedia question: From: Debbie Hemstreet
Re: Wikipedia question: From: Peter Neilson

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