Re: Back to SGML (ugh) after yrs of XML - AF TOs - State of the > Zoo Qs (Robert Williams)

Subject: Re: Back to SGML (ugh) after yrs of XML - AF TOs - State of the > Zoo Qs (Robert Williams)
From: Liz Fraley <liz -at- caltonia -dot- com>
To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:34:33 -0700

I got this in the digest, and saw the cross-post on adepters. I
thought I'd post my response here as well, so anyone searching the
archives will come across the answer.

Cheers,
Liz


---------My answer:

We've had many, many inquiries just like this. I got a look at the
print FOSI and, IIRC, it showed intensive use of Datalogics extensions
which means Print Composer won't give you the PDF you want without a
whole lot of work. The Authoring/Editing in Arbortext works fine (and
yes, there's no screen fosi, but, unlike the print fosi, this is
pretty simple to fix - PTC, us, or, really, any of the Arbortext
partners can do that for you, or you can do it yourself in a couple of
hours with Styler + eLearning).

Cheers,
Liz

> 2. Back to SGML (ugh) after yrs of XML - AF TOs - State of the
> Zoo Qs (Robert Williams)

> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:16:32 -0400
> From: "Robert Williams" <robert -dot- williams -at- techresearchgroup -dot- com>
> To: <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
> Subject: Back to SGML (ugh) after yrs of XML - AF TOs - State of the
> Zoo Qs
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> Hi all, long time lurker, long time tech writer. mostly military TMs (SGML &
> XML - Arbortext and some structured Frame).
>
>
>
> I know that there are some real experts out there that read this list that
> are SGML & XML and Arbortext gurus. with this I beseech you. (burning
> chicken bones over a bat wing fire here)
>
>
>
> After several yrs of 40051 Army XML TMs (LOGSA - Arbortext - PrintComposer -
> PDF Output). I'm being dragged back into SGML, for some USAF TOs.
>
>
>
> Questions are:
>
>
>
> 1. New TMs for new USAF equipment calling for SGML vice XML.. what's up
> with that? (i.e. where are they going with this, big USAF I mean?) Too much
> $$$ in SGML infrastructure? Thought they'd be moving forward to XML on all
> fronts, no? The end product appears to be 'indexed' PDFs with SGML file
> deliverables.
>
>
>
> 2. I've always used GFE/GFI provided DTDs for both SGML and XML, and while
> this appears to be the case here, there are a couple of 'peculiarities'
> lurking.
>
>
>
> a. Deliveries are both SGML and 'indexed' PDFs (meaning 'linked'? More on
> this below)
>
> b. SOW says we can use any SGML editor with their DTD (true), but they
> also state their FOSIs were built for Datalogic only (which I've never
> used.)
>
> c. Now I need to buy freakin' 'Datalogics'? -at- !? I know nothing of
> 'Datalogics.' (and I'm already old enough to remember using Interleaf)
>
>
>
> 3. Using Arbortext for SGML - will it play nice in the sandbox with this
> stuff? (Specifically:)
>
>
>
> a. No screen FOSI (have worked without one a lot - so not too concerned -
> mebbe pay Jerry Tippee to dummy us up a basic screen FOSI for the DTD)
>
> b. What is the likelihood that I can get a decent PDF out of this without
> too much wailing and gnashing of teeth? (Arbortext's PrintComposer?)
>
> c. What is the likelihood that the PDF will come out with the links
> working properly? (not holding my breath on this one)
>
> d. Or will I need to buy some Datalogics product to process my Arbortext
> edited SGML into a decent (delivery quality) PDF?
>
>
>
> All thoughts and insights welcome. Let me know what y'all think.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for all reads and replies.
>
>
>
> Bob W.
>
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>
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