Re: A question for the list in general

Subject: Re: A question for the list in general
From: "William Sherman" <bsherman77 -at- embarqmail -dot- com>
To: "Keith Hood" <bus -dot- write -at- gmail -dot- com>, <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 20:09:46 -0400

Your name, your address, your last 4 digits, and your date of birth will let a person get access to a large number of accounts like cable, banks, telephone, etc.

Since so many of the recruiters are questionable if they are on US soil (heck, what am I saying, we know they aren't.) as they use drop box street addresses (12035 East 35th Ave, Suite 1205 = a mail box store on 12035 East 35th Ave. and they are box number 1205), the rules and morals of sharing/protecting your private information is often very different than what you think it is.

So while they look for a job for you, they have their brother/cousin/uncle/5th cousin twice removed from a previous marriage selling that information to someone who has a use changing your phone service to one they provide, which you don't notice until months later. Or they have added extra accounts to your cable. Or they are using your cable subscription to have 50 remote viewers watching shows on networks on your account.

Yes, I can be pessimistic sometimes.

You don't need to give them any of that until you get a W4 and I9 form.

Rule of thumb, never offer information not required. You know all those Internet forms? Unless there is a red asterisk indicating required, don't give it. Same in phone conversations.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Hood" <bus -dot- write -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: "techwr-l" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:23 AM
Subject: A question for the list in general

Has anyone else seen this?

Lately, I've been seeing something in the behavior of staffing firms that
bugs me. Whenever I respond to a message about a possible job opening, they
ask for a lot of information like current location, availability, etc. And
recently, a lot of them ask for the last 4 digits of my Social Security
number, and my date of birth - month and year. The SSN, of course, is
critical in identifying people in official government records, and under
HIPAA rules, the 4-digit DOB is used for confirming ID in medical records.

As far as I can tell, this just started recently, in the last year. It used
to be that every great once in a while, a recruiter would ask for the last
4 on the SSN, but it was because I was applying at a company where I had
worked before, and the client company wanted it so they could confirm my
identity in their records. I can't remember a recruiter ever asking for my
DOB before last year.

So why are all recruiting agencies now asking me for this data right at the
start as a normal matter of course? What legitimate reason could recruiters
have for asking me to disclose to them the data that is most sought after
by scammers and identity thieves?

I've had some tell me that they need it for distinguishing me in their
records, which I say is a load. If all they want is a key for information
about me in their database, they could just make up a number on their own -
a fact which I have pointed out to more than one recruiter. The fact their
have a field on their record keeping interface is NOT sufficient reason for
me giving up critical secure information. A couple have told me that the
client company they recruit for requires that data. In those cases I've
asked for an explanation from the client company as to why they think they
need that particular data, and I've never received any responses to those

Any thoughts on this?

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