Re: To VPN?

Subject: Re: To VPN?
From: Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: "techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:39:45 -0400

I understand the issue with VPN services.

But what about a local VPN set up within one's home router?

Chris Morton



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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Paul Hanson <twer_lists_all -at- hotmail -dot- com>
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> I've been following this discussion and am passing along this article that
> was in one of my newsfeeds: https://www.wired.com/2017/03/
> vpns-wont-save-congress-internet-privacy-giveaway/
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> To: 'Keith Mahoney'
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> Subject: RE: To VPN?
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> Check out Medium, specifically their FreeCodeCamp section. They offer good
> posts on privacy, security, and encryption.
>
> C.
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> From: Keith Mahoney [mailto:kamahoney1965 -at- gmail -dot- com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:41 AM
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> Subject: Re: To VPN?
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> Interesting topic - Would TOR Browser which does pass you through VPNs in
> other countries not obscure the info the ISPs?
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Cardimon, Craig <ccardimon -at- m-s-g -dot- com
> <mailto:ccardimon -at- m-s-g -dot- com>> wrote:
> Your data is going to be sold to advertisers. Period. But it's not all bad
> news. For me, I'd rather have targeted advertising. Why?
>
> I don't follow sports, so an ad for football or baseball wastes my time
> and the advertisers' time and effort and money.
>
> I go running on the weekends, so I'd probably look at an ad for running
> shoes or a GPS watch because I'm interested in the technology surrounding
> running.
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> Subject: Re: To VPN?
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> What I suspect will happen if this issue gets enough traction is that the
> commercial browser vendors (Google and Microsoft most likely) will start
> offering free VPN services. The issue with that is that you then give all
> your web history to Google or Microsoft, which you're already doing if
> you're logged into a Google account in Chrome btw. This would mean that you
> have a choice of who you want to trust:
> 1. ISP who will sell your data to 3rd parties if you don't pay for the
> "VIP" plan. Also is guaranteed to have your personally identifying
> information (name, address, etc.) to attach to the data because you had to
> give it to them to sign up 2. Browser vendor who may do whatever is in the
> TOS with the data.
> 3. 3rd-party VPN company who may or may not log the traffic and also do
> whatever the TOS says they can.
>
> Either way, really not great....
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com
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> wrote:
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> > In my area I'm sure some ISPs will offer contracts with solid privacy
> > clauses. Some probably already do.
> >
> > California as a whole may impose privacy requirements on ISPs. Our
> > state constitution gives us privacy rights that Americans in general
> > lack.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Chris Morton
> > <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com<mailto:salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>>
> > wrote:
> > > I don't like the news out of Washington about internet privacy
> > restrictions
> > > being relaxed in favor of ISPs. This isn't any good.
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