Re: To VPN?

Subject: Re: To VPN?
From: Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: "techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:58:45 -0400

Thanks Daniel, Robert, Craig and everyone else.

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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Daniel Friedman <
daniel -dot- friedman42 -at- gmail -dot- com> wrote:

> Chris,
> A local VPN setup will not mask your traffic to your ISP, because it is in
> your local network. Your ISP can see whatever comes out of your local
> network, regardless of device. What the VPN service provides is an external
> point to send your traffic to in an encrypted fashion. Basically, you send
> your request to visit amazon.com to the VPN and it relays the transaction
> to amazon and sends you back the results through the VPN tunnel. Your ISP
> just sees encrypted traffic back and forth to the VPN, and not the DNS,
> HTTP, and other requests or where they're going to.
>
> A local VPN would be useful if you wanted to access resources on your
> local network from outside, like if you had files on a shared hard drive
> and you wanted to get them while outside the house.
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>
> wrote:
>
>> I understand the issue with VPN services.
>>
>> But what about a local VPN set up within one's home router?
>>
>> Chris Morton
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>>
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>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Paul Hanson <twer_lists_all -at- hotmail -dot- com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I've been following this discussion and am passing along this article
>> that
>> > was in one of my newsfeeds: https://www.wired.com/2017/03/
>> > vpns-wont-save-congress-internet-privacy-giveaway/
>> >
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>> > From: techwr-l-bounces+twer_lists_all=hotmail -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
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>> > On Behalf Of Cardimon, Craig
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:44 AM
>> > To: 'Keith Mahoney'
>> > Cc: 'TECHWR-L'
>> > Subject: RE: To VPN?
>> >
>> > Check out Medium, specifically their FreeCodeCamp section. They offer
>> good
>> > posts on privacy, security, and encryption.
>> >
>> > C.
>> >
>> > From: Keith Mahoney [mailto:kamahoney1965 -at- gmail -dot- com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:41 AM
>> > To: Cardimon, Craig <ccardimon -at- M-S-G -dot- com>; kamahoney1965 <
>> > kamahoney1965 -at- gmail -dot- com>
>> > Cc: Daniel Friedman <daniel -dot- friedman42 -at- gmail -dot- com>; Robert Lauriston <
>> > robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>; TECHWR-L <techwr-l -at- techwr-l -dot- com>
>> > Subject: Re: To VPN?
>> >
>> > Interesting topic - Would TOR Browser which does pass you through VPNs
>> in
>> > other countries not obscure the info the ISPs?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Cardimon, Craig <ccardimon -at- m-s-g -dot- com
>> > <mailto:ccardimon -at- m-s-g -dot- com>> wrote:
>> > Your data is going to be sold to advertisers. Period. But it's not all
>> bad
>> > news. For me, I'd rather have targeted advertising. Why?
>> >
>> > I don't follow sports, so an ad for football or baseball wastes my time
>> > and the advertisers' time and effort and money.
>> >
>> > I go running on the weekends, so I'd probably look at an ad for running
>> > shoes or a GPS watch because I'm interested in the technology
>> surrounding
>> > running.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: techwr-l-bounces+ccardimon=m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com<mailto:
>> > m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com> [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+ccardimon
>> <mailto:
>> > techwr-l-bounces%2Bccardimon>=m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com<mailto:
>> > m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>] On Behalf Of Daniel Friedman
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:27 PM
>> > To: Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com<mailto:robert -at- lauriston -dot- com
>> >>
>> > Cc: TECHWR-L <techwr-l -at- techwr-l -dot- com<mailto:techwr-l -at- techwr-l -dot- com>>
>> > Subject: Re: To VPN?
>> >
>> > What I suspect will happen if this issue gets enough traction is that
>> the
>> > commercial browser vendors (Google and Microsoft most likely) will start
>> > offering free VPN services. The issue with that is that you then give
>> all
>> > your web history to Google or Microsoft, which you're already doing if
>> > you're logged into a Google account in Chrome btw. This would mean that
>> you
>> > have a choice of who you want to trust:
>> > 1. ISP who will sell your data to 3rd parties if you don't pay for the
>> > "VIP" plan. Also is guaranteed to have your personally identifying
>> > information (name, address, etc.) to attach to the data because you had
>> to
>> > give it to them to sign up 2. Browser vendor who may do whatever is in
>> the
>> > TOS with the data.
>> > 3. 3rd-party VPN company who may or may not log the traffic and also do
>> > whatever the TOS says they can.
>> >
>> > Either way, really not great....
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com
>> > <mailto:robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > In my area I'm sure some ISPs will offer contracts with solid privacy
>> > > clauses. Some probably already do.
>> > >
>> > > California as a whole may impose privacy requirements on ISPs. Our
>> > > state constitution gives us privacy rights that Americans in general
>> > > lack.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Chris Morton
>> > > <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com<mailto:salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > I don't like the news out of Washington about internet privacy
>> > > restrictions
>> > > > being relaxed in favor of ISPs. This isn't any good.
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