Re: To VPN?

Subject: Re: To VPN?
From: Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: "techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:01:27 -0400

I still puzzled, though, in that the EFF touts VPNs:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/congress-sides-cable-and-telephone-industry

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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>
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> Thanks Daniel, Robert, Craig and everyone else.
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> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Daniel Friedman <
> daniel -dot- friedman42 -at- gmail -dot- com> wrote:
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>> Chris,
>> A local VPN setup will not mask your traffic to your ISP, because it is
>> in your local network. Your ISP can see whatever comes out of your local
>> network, regardless of device. What the VPN service provides is an external
>> point to send your traffic to in an encrypted fashion. Basically, you send
>> your request to visit amazon.com to the VPN and it relays the
>> transaction to amazon and sends you back the results through the VPN
>> tunnel. Your ISP just sees encrypted traffic back and forth to the VPN, and
>> not the DNS, HTTP, and other requests or where they're going to.
>>
>> A local VPN would be useful if you wanted to access resources on your
>> local network from outside, like if you had files on a shared hard drive
>> and you wanted to get them while outside the house.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I understand the issue with VPN services.
>>>
>>> But what about a local VPN set up within one's home router?
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Paul Hanson <twer_lists_all -at- hotmail -dot- com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've been following this discussion and am passing along this article
>>> that
>>> > was in one of my newsfeeds: https://www.wired.com/2017/03/
>>> > vpns-wont-save-congress-internet-privacy-giveaway/
>>> >
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>>> > On Behalf Of Cardimon, Craig
>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:44 AM
>>> > To: 'Keith Mahoney'
>>> > Cc: 'TECHWR-L'
>>> > Subject: RE: To VPN?
>>> >
>>> > Check out Medium, specifically their FreeCodeCamp section. They offer
>>> good
>>> > posts on privacy, security, and encryption.
>>> >
>>> > C.
>>> >
>>> > From: Keith Mahoney [mailto:kamahoney1965 -at- gmail -dot- com]
>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:41 AM
>>> > To: Cardimon, Craig <ccardimon -at- M-S-G -dot- com>; kamahoney1965 <
>>> > kamahoney1965 -at- gmail -dot- com>
>>> > Cc: Daniel Friedman <daniel -dot- friedman42 -at- gmail -dot- com>; Robert Lauriston <
>>> > robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>; TECHWR-L <techwr-l -at- techwr-l -dot- com>
>>> > Subject: Re: To VPN?
>>> >
>>> > Interesting topic - Would TOR Browser which does pass you through VPNs
>>> in
>>> > other countries not obscure the info the ISPs?
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Cardimon, Craig <ccardimon -at- m-s-g -dot- com
>>> > <mailto:ccardimon -at- m-s-g -dot- com>> wrote:
>>> > Your data is going to be sold to advertisers. Period. But it's not all
>>> bad
>>> > news. For me, I'd rather have targeted advertising. Why?
>>> >
>>> > I don't follow sports, so an ad for football or baseball wastes my time
>>> > and the advertisers' time and effort and money.
>>> >
>>> > I go running on the weekends, so I'd probably look at an ad for running
>>> > shoes or a GPS watch because I'm interested in the technology
>>> surrounding
>>> > running.
>>> >
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>>> > From: techwr-l-bounces+ccardimon=m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com<mailto:
>>> > m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com> [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+ccardimon
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>>> > techwr-l-bounces%2Bccardimon>=m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com<mailto:
>>> > m-s-g -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>] On Behalf Of Daniel Friedman
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:27 PM
>>> > To: Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com<mailto:robert -at- lauriston -dot- com
>>> >>
>>> > Cc: TECHWR-L <techwr-l -at- techwr-l -dot- com<mailto:techwr-l -at- techwr-l -dot- com>>
>>> > Subject: Re: To VPN?
>>> >
>>> > What I suspect will happen if this issue gets enough traction is that
>>> the
>>> > commercial browser vendors (Google and Microsoft most likely) will
>>> start
>>> > offering free VPN services. The issue with that is that you then give
>>> all
>>> > your web history to Google or Microsoft, which you're already doing if
>>> > you're logged into a Google account in Chrome btw. This would mean
>>> that you
>>> > have a choice of who you want to trust:
>>> > 1. ISP who will sell your data to 3rd parties if you don't pay for the
>>> > "VIP" plan. Also is guaranteed to have your personally identifying
>>> > information (name, address, etc.) to attach to the data because you
>>> had to
>>> > give it to them to sign up 2. Browser vendor who may do whatever is in
>>> the
>>> > TOS with the data.
>>> > 3. 3rd-party VPN company who may or may not log the traffic and also do
>>> > whatever the TOS says they can.
>>> >
>>> > Either way, really not great....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Robert Lauriston <
>>> robert -at- lauriston -dot- com
>>> > <mailto:robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > In my area I'm sure some ISPs will offer contracts with solid privacy
>>> > > clauses. Some probably already do.
>>> > >
>>> > > California as a whole may impose privacy requirements on ISPs. Our
>>> > > state constitution gives us privacy rights that Americans in general
>>> > > lack.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Chris Morton
>>> > > <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com<mailto:salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > I don't like the news out of Washington about internet privacy
>>> > > restrictions
>>> > > > being relaxed in favor of ISPs. This isn't any good.
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