Re: active vs. passive

Subject: Re: active vs. passive
From: Usha Manoj <usha -dot- manoj07 -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: Bernd Hutschenreuther <hutschi -at- yahoo -dot- com>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 18:35:30 +0530

Thank you for the response. Appreciate you taking time to respond to my
query.
Regards
Usha

On 07-Aug-2017 4:36 PM, "Bernd Hutschenreuther" <hutschi -at- yahoo -dot- com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> if you just exchange "will be" by "is" or "are" it has no direct influence
> on passiv or active voice.
>
> I am here. I will be here. - active
> The letter will be sent. The letter is sent. - passive.
>
> You will have to restructure the sentence.
> To avoid passive voice has advantage in many sentences, especially in user
> manuals and in specifications.
> Passive voice often hides what or who is doing the action. This may cause
> problems.
>
> Otherwise, passive voice can have an advantage if you want to topicalice
> something.
>
> Compare:
>
> 1. The system fills the Address field using the address information from
> the main customer. (active)
> 2. The address field will be filled with the address information from the
> main customer. (passive)
>
> 2. is shorter and you can read at first about the topic.
> In 1. you have to read a part which usually is not essential. But it can
> be. If both the user and the system can fill the field, 1. will hide this
> information.
>
> I would look into the style guide to find how to write it.
> If there is no style guide I would recommend to write one. It helps all to
> find answers when to avoid passive and how to write it.
>
> In my experience passive is dangerous for the programmers, if they
> mismatch the actor with the receiver.
>
> Best regards
> Bernd
>
>
>
> Usha Manoj <usha -dot- manoj07 -at- gmail -dot- com> schrieb am 11:50 Montag, 7.August
> 2017:
>
>
> Dear All,
> With regards to active and passive, I have a query and may be you can throw
> some light on it.
> I have usually encountered this problem when I drafted RFP or RFI.
> Technical writing emphasizes on using active voice. However, in case of
> proposals, where you talk about performing a particular action in case you
> win the deal, the text is usually in future tense, for example, Company X
> will be responsible to meet the SLA targets. How best can we avoid using
> "will be" in the sentence. I have tried replacing it with "is" or "are"
> depending on the context, but doesn't work in all cases. Please advise.
> Regards
> Usha
>
> On 05-Aug-2017 8:04 PM, "Karin Matchett" <wordcraft -at- karinmatchett -dot- com>
> wrote:
>
> > I agree. In addition to needing a form of "to be," it needs an
> explicit
> > subject.
> > The question of active vs. passive doesn't even apply to this sentence
> > because it's a command, which only has an implied subject of "you." My
> > sense of why the question of passive voice is coming up is that there
> > are different ways to phrase this sentence that are differently
> > direct/indirect/confusing/obtuse/imprecise. These have a similar feel
> > to active/passive, but they're not the same thing -- there's no
> > overlap.
> > Karin
> >
> > On 8/4/2017 7:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> >
> > Since the subject specifically refers to active vs. passive, I'll
> > repeat what I said in that long thread, only correctly (it has been a
> > long and busy day):
> >
> > A phrase in passive voice has to have a form of the verb "be" and a
> > past participle. There's more to it, but without those, it's not
> > passive voice.
> >
> > Garner's "Modern American Usage" has good explanations for things like
> > that.
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Re: active vs. passive: From: Karin Matchett
Re: active vs. passive: From: Usha Manoj
Re: active vs. passive: From: Bernd Hutschenreuther

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