Re: "layouting," ugh.

Subject: Re: "layouting," ugh.
From: Ken Poshedly <poshedly -at- bellsouth -dot- net>
To: "Elisa R. Sawyer" <elisawyer -at- gmail -dot- com>, Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:21:13 +0000 (UTC)

"Welcome to try"? I guess it all depends on these things:
* Your age. Over 50? If your are cut loose, count on a long, dry job search unless Lady Luck favors you and you work in a very in-demand area.* Your industry. Maybe in hi-tech, I guess tech pubs managers tend to be promoted from a group of other tech pubs professionals, and sticking up for good writing and such is admirable and might get you rewarded. In mine (heavy construction equipment), however, it's common to take retiring plant workers who know everything about the machines but not much about good, clear writing skills and plop them down at a keyboard to do the op manuals and such. So when one of them gets to be your boss and you argue the fine points of clarity, punctuation, etc., and get waived-off, you might just be on the wrong side and face a losing battle.
Incidentally, it's also common for other tech pubs managers who rose from the non-writing side of things to just assume that everything written by the BIG companies in this industry (not named here), MUST be correct -- except it ain't. I see it everyday here.

I applaud your self-confidence and hope you win this battle.
-- Ken in Atlanta (into his 60s and has given up on seeking another full-time gig; contract work, here I come)

From: Elisa R. Sawyer <elisawyer -at- gmail -dot- com>
To: Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>
Cc: TECHWR-L Writing <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: "layouting," ugh.

I agree! Thanks!

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Robert Lauriston <robert -at- lauriston -dot- com>
wrote:

> Saying "no" is one of the things that puts the senior in senior
> technical writer. If someone wants to fire me for correcting their bad
> English, they're welcome to try.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Ken Poshedly <poshedly -at- bellsouth -dot- net>
> wrote:
> > The whole problem is that the original poster is dealing a
> close-minded, self-appointed âexpertâ who manages by intimidation, always
> gets what he demands and is not respected and is probably laughed at behind
> his back. ALL of us have at one time or another suffered through this. No
> amount of proof from reputable sources is going to change his mind (unless
> I missed a message in this thread). Just hold your nose and finish the
> âgarbage jobâ and decided how much longer you want to stay there. Happy
> Easter, everybody.
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Re: "layouting," ugh.: From: Elisa R. Sawyer
Re: "layouting," ugh.: From: Robert Lauriston
Re: "layouting," ugh.: From: Ken Poshedly
Re: "layouting," ugh.: From: Robert Lauriston
Re: "layouting," ugh.: From: Elisa R. Sawyer

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