Re: Word 7 for Windows vs Formatting problems

Subject: Re: Word 7 for Windows vs Formatting problems
From: "Ridder, Fred" <F -dot- Ridder -at- DIALOGIC -dot- COM>
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:20:58 -0500

One thing you have to be very careful about with manual page breaks
is that they are treated as part of the following paragraph. If you insert
a manual page break before a heading that is to appear in the Table
of Contents, I have seen two different anomalous results occur:

1) A ToC entry that picks up the page number where the manual
page break is located rather than the correct page number where
the heading itself appears.
2) Double ToC entries for the heading, one with the early page
number and one with the correct page number.

In my experience, the only safe way to force a page break before
a heading paragraph is to use Format>Paragraph>Text Flow>Page
Break Before.

Fred Ridder (mailto:f -dot- ridder -at- dialogic -dot- com)
Senior Technical Writer
Dialogic Corporation, Parsippany, NJ

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On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 at 11:40:27, Ron Biggs <ronb -at- SAKSON -dot- COM> wrote:

Ouch? It is painful, but we've learned from much indexing experience
that the only way to reliably predict page breaks in most versions of
Word after version 6 (yes, with hidden text hidden) was to set the page
breaks manually.

senior editor
sakson & taylor inc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Mallett [SMTP:roger -at- CSICAL -dot- COM]
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 11:17 AM
> To: TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU
> Subject: Re: Word 7 for Windows vs Formatting problems
> Manual page breaks -- OUCH!!!
> With respect to correct/incorrect page numbers being listed in a TOC,
> etc., documents that have hidden text can sometimes cause page breaks
> to
> be funny. When generating anything that requires page numbering, page
> counts, etc., be sure that the hidden text is not displayed. To turn
> hidden text off, select Options from the Tools menu, displays the View
> property page and ensure that both Hidden Text and All are unchecked.
> An example problem would be if you had "Page X of Y" in a header,
> where
> X is the page code and Y is the numpage code. Lets say that the
> document is ten pages long when hidden text is displayed, and eight
> pages long when hidden text is not displayed. If the document is
> printed while the hidden text is displayed, you would only get eight
> pages out of the printer though the header would say there are 10, and
> your TOC might show an item is on page 10 (but prints on page 8).
> ---------------------
> Roger Mallett
> Control Systems
> (714) 458-5040 x 239
> >----------
> >From: Ron Biggs[SMTP:ronb -at- SAKSON -dot- COM]
> >Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 9:40 AM
> >To: TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU
> >Subject: Re: Word 7 for Windows vs Formatting problems
> >
> >
> >Also, make sure you have manually set *all* pagebreaks.
> >
> >-ron
> >senior editor
> >sakson & taylor inc
> >206.545.3608
> >

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