Re: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries

Subject: Re: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries
From: Roger Mallett <roger -at- CSICAL -dot- COM>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:39:43 -0700

To: Hope (and to all of those sparky people who are flaming me),

"sick, sick, sick, was just my way of having fun with you.

I do not understand exactly what the boss is thinking (my assumption is
that it is rational and justifiable), nor do I have any solution for the
employee, except to bear it out. I have been in situations where my job
couldn't get done well without going to the client site, and well, my
employer said No. Plain and simple. No, sex discrimination was not
involved, but just the same, to get the job done meant finding another
way to do it.

Seems that the person who overcomes any obstacle and gets the job done
anyway is a much better employee. Such an employee will be noticed, if
not at the current workplace, then at one in the future. You can't keep
good people down.

Roger Mallett


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>From:
> hope -dot- d -dot- cascio -at- US -dot- ARTHURANDERSEN -dot- COM[SMTP:hope -dot- d -dot- cascio -at- US -dot- ARTHURANDERSE
>N.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 12:17 PM
>To: roger -at- csical -dot- com
>Cc: PPalmer -at- SPHERECOM -dot- COM
>Subject: RE: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
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>Sick? Do you not agree that she is being discriminated against? It
>seems
>you do, because you say that "she...[can] overcome any difficulty and
>get
>the job done anyway." Why should she have this stumbling block in her
>way?
>People from oppressed groups often do somehow manage to do their work,
>even
>with blatant discrimination, but they shouldn't have to be better than
>someone without such blocks in their way, just to do the same quality
>of
>work.
>
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>To: TECHWR-L @ LISTSERV.OKSTATE.EDU, Hope D. Cascio
>cc:
>From: roger -at- csical -dot- com
>Date: 04/28/98 03:08 PM
>Subject: RE: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
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>sick, sick, sick. Call EEO???
>If her work is affected by the policy, I am sure she is man enough (he
>he (oops, ahem)) to overcome any difficulty and get the job done
>anyway.
> Good employees always do.
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>>From: Hope Cascio[SMTP:hope -dot- d -dot- cascio -at- US -dot- ARTHURANDERSEN -dot- COM]
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 11:29 AM
>>To: TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU
>>Subject: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
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>>This is sex discrimination, because the president is affecting how you
>>do
>>your work based on your gender. I would tell the president that the
>>current
>>policy prevents you from doing you work to the best of your ability (as
>>it
>>does) and that if the policy is not rescinded, you'll take it to the
>>EEO
>>(or equivalent government office protecting against discrimination in
>>the
>>workplace.)
>>Hope Cascio
>>
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>>To: TECHWR-L @ LISTSERV.OKSTATE.EDU
>>cc: (bcc: Hope D. Cascio)
>>From: PPalmer -at- SPHERECOM -dot- COM
>>Date: 04/28/98 01:34 PM
>>Subject: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
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>>Here's my question for you wise folks:
>>Scenario: I need to go to several beta sites and new installations for
>>training issues and installation documentation development. The
>>'president' of our small company is adamant against males and females
>>traveling together (large group going to same site, only one female;
>>getting a ride to the airport with colleague, etc.) even for a working
>>lunch. I say I can't live like that. I need the information from the
>>site and I need to be with the developers as they analyze what's going
>>on...
>>What do you do?
>>Thanks for your discussion of this topic.
>>Phyllis
>>~~~
>>Check out topic summaries at
>>http://www.raycomm.com/techwhirl/topics.htm
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>>~~~
>>Check out topic summaries at
>>http://www.raycomm.com/techwhirl/topics.htm
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