Re: The Ugly Incident

Subject: Re: The Ugly Incident
From: Bruce Ashley <bashley -at- CREATEPRINT -dot- COM -dot- AU>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:31:37 +1000

You missed the point Mark.

A loud mouth is a loud mouth. Male or female. We weren't talking about
ability.

You complain of a loud mouthed female being called a bitch (to quote
others). Have you EVER heard a female called an arse'ole, prick, bastard,
mongrel etc etc (we all know the swear words).

The answer is no. These are terms saved for the male equivalent of a
'bitch'.

And as I've previously stated, the size of the mouth is usually the
opposite of the size of the ability. Male or female.

IMHO

Bruce Ashley
OZ



< No he doesn't.

< that's my five gallons of gas for this fire.

< John

From ??? -at- ??? Sun Jan 00 00:00:00 0000=

Me:
I was going to let this drop after reading the post from the listowner
saying the original poster had lost posting priviledges, as he probably
wouldn't see it. But after John's post I felt that maybe the attitudes
displayed were not as uncommon as I had hoped.

There are some very interesting Communication studies on the perception
of women in the workplace. To make a long story short, (so you can get back
to Tech Writing issues) if a woman is an "aggressive, hard-nosed, decision-
maker, hands-on" (or insert other adjectives) type of manager, she is
perceived as being a bitch. However, these are also the traits that are
listed as being needed to be a successful manager. AND, if men are
perceived as holding these traits, they are viewed positively.

It's a no win situation for women. If they don't act like that, they
are (often, not always) considered too passive to be put into positions
of responsibility. If they do act like that, they are perceived as being
bitches and people don't want to co-operate.

Hoping it can get better....judge on performance

Mark Whitney
Communications Dept
SUNY Morrisville

From ??? -at- ??? Sun Jan 00 00:00:00 0000=




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