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Subject:Re: HTML & CSS From:Barry Campbell <barry -at- WEBVERANDA -dot- COM> Date:Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:33:50 -0500
At 02:47 PM 12/7/98 +0100, John Cornellier wrote:
>Isn't CSS an idea whose time has come? Good DTP uses styles, and not
>character formatting, right?
>If it isn't being implemented, why not? Because it's too easy to create
>template docs in the HTML generator tools? Lack of support for CSS in HTML
>editors? People aren't willing to invest the time in the long-term benefits
>of CSS in a fast-changing environment? Has anyone considered CSS and opted
>not to implement?
(raising hand) Right here. We've experimented a little with CSS
on our intranet, but we are *not* using CSS on our external site
and have no plans to do so.
(1) Neither Netscape nor Microsoft currently offers anything resembling
a complete CSS implementation, even in their most recent browsers--
and at least 40% of our site's audience doesn't use a 4.0 browser.
(2) What Netscape and Microsoft *do* implement, they often implement
(3) To use CSS effectively, currently you must either
(a) limit yourself to the subset of CSS that Netscape and Microsoft's
CSS-aware browsers (IE 3.0, 4.0, Netscape 4.x) can handle and treat
similarly--hardly worth the bother--
(b) develop and maintain two completely separate page sets, with a
script to check which browser you're running on and switch
accordingly. What a nightmare.
CSS is a good idea in theory; so far, implementation has been terrible,
because it is deeply inconsistent from browser to browser.
For good information on the current state of CSS, check out Webmonkey's
Once you read up on CSS inconsistencies, if you'd like to get *really*
depressed about cross-platform development, start reading up on the
differences in the Document Object Model between browsers.
Barry Campbell | barry -at- webveranda -dot- com
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Summit Systems, Inc. | bcampbel -at- summithq -dot- com
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