Re: Looking for classes in indexing

Subject: Re: Looking for classes in indexing
From: dick -at- rlhamilton -dot- net
To: TECHWR-L <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 13:55:36 -0700

Looking at the STC article, Iâm curious to get the opinion of indexers in this group on the following item on the list:

5. Do not assign page references to both the main entry level and the subentry level.

Do you agree?

I see this frequently, including in my copy of CMOS 15 and Nancy Mulvanyâs "Indexing Books." And I know itâs in our books, too (though some of those were indexed by me or the author and not by a professional:-).

Best regards,
Richard
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> On Jul 25, 2018, at 12:54, Lin Sims <ljsims -dot- ml -at- gmail -dot- com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Monique! The STC site had the Intercom article you referenced. I am
> reading it now. :)
>
> I was contacted offlist by one of the people at ASI who crafted that
> agreement with STC. They're looking into it for me. It's entirely possible
> the information is still on the site and I was unable to find it using
> Google search (the irony, it burns!).
>
> I'll be trawling through the other resources you mentioned. And I've
> purchased the Indexing Books referenced in an earlier email.
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Monique Semp <monique -dot- semp -at- earthlink -dot- net>
> wrote:
>
>> Really old, but I have printout of an article from the October 2012 STC
>> Intercom magazine that I found quite useful: The Top 10 Indexing Errors
>> Made by Technical Writers, by Lorne Griffith. I imagine it wouldn't be too
>> hard to find online. (And if it is, you can ping me and I'd be happy to
>> scan it and send the PDF.)
>>
>> And I second Lin's comments around the idea that digital search does not
>> take the place of a good, human-produced index. For example, if the text
>> says, "remove", but I search for "delete", I'll never find it. But in a
>> manually-produced index, I'd expect to see an entry for "delete" that says,
>> "see remove".
>>
>> I was a member of ASI for many years even though, like Lin, the only
>> things I indexed were tech docs that I wrote. But I thought of doing more
>> (until I found how low the pay was for how much work it would take to write
>> a really excellent, vs. mediocre, index), and I liked the erudite
>> discussions among the REAL indexers.
>>
>> It is unfortunate that ASI seems to require membership to take their
>> courses. Maybe a personal note to them to ask for an exception might work?
>> I did look at their webinars page, and those seem generally available to
>> non-members, although the topics are mostly pretty narrowly focused to a
>> given tool or a given indexing focus. See https://www.asindexing.org/
>> category/webinars/.
>>
>> The Portland chapter of ASI lists a bunch of non-ASI indexing courses:
>> http://pnwasi.org/wp/?page_id=141. Perhaps other chapters (don't recall
>> where you are, so not sure if there's an active chapter near you) have
>> similar lists of resources.
>>
>> And here's a nice list of resources, including email discussion lists, but
>> a lot of it is geared to people wanting to have their own indexing
>> business. But of course, the email discussion lists would be useful for all
>> indexers. See http://www.backwordsindexing.com/Novice/NoviceNotes.html.
>>
>> And my last list on this listicles reply: https://indexstudents.
>> wordpress.com/education/ - lots of training and all sorts of resources.
>>
>> (Yes, I like the subject of indexing!)
>>
>> HTH,
>> -Monique
>>
>
>
>
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References:
Looking for classes in indexing: From: Lin Sims
RE: Looking for classes in indexing: From: Wright, Lynne
Re: Looking for classes in indexing: From: Peter Neilson
Re: Looking for classes in indexing: From: Lin Sims
Re: Looking for classes in indexing: From: Monique Semp
Re: Looking for classes in indexing: From: Lin Sims

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